Subject:
Re: [discuss] who is responsible for the tldp.org domain name
From:
Rick Moen ####@####.####
Date:
3 Nov 2008 08:36:33 +0000
Message-Id: <20081103083535.GE5561@linuxmafia.com>
Quoting Jean-Daniel Dodin ####@####.####
> the whois info still gives Guilhem Aznar as owner of the tldp.org
> domain name
Well, in a way, yes -- in a way, no:
Registrant ID:0-559477-Gandi
Registrant Name:TLDP - The Linux Documentation Project
Registrant Organization:TLDP - The Linux Documentation Project
Registrant Street1:c/o Metalab-iBiblio, The University of North Carolina, 213 M
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Chapel Hill
Registrant State/Province:North Carolina
Registrant Postal Code:27599-3456
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.9199625646
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant ####@####.####
That is, in a formal sense, the domain owner is "TLDP, c/o Metalab".
If there were ever a dispute about ultimate control of the domain, the
registrar (Gandi) would look to the (alleged) organisation's
documentation to resolve it. The PDF form to handle domain transfers
(in case nobody's either able to do so via the Web interface, or not
permitted to do so) is at
http://www.gandi.net/static/docs/en/change_owner.pdf , and includes:
FORMER OWNER
I, the undersigned, hereby transfer the ownership of the
aforementioned domains to the individual (or organization)
indicated above.
I enclose proof of ownership to this letter, that matches
the owner name, exactly as it appears in the whois:
o a copy of the domain owner's signed proof of identity
(passport, identity card, driver license, etc...).
o if relevant, proof that the company on behalf of which
I act exists, and that I am authorized to act in this
capacity. This document must be a certified legal
document that contains both the name of the
organization and my name as a signing officer (C.E.O.,
President, Executive Director, etc...).
So, in such a situation, someone would need to sit down and create some
LDP letterhead paper with a University of North Carolina postal address,
type up and sign a letter purporting to speak as the president/whatever
of LDP, and go visit a notary public and get it attested to as having
been signed by you, before sending it. (Gandi.net really just want to
be able to show "due diligence", if they are ever sued over a wrongful
ownership transfer or such.)
However, _normally_, domain control is available via the Web
interface to whomever the Registrant (domain owner) issues the "Access
Codes" (handles and passwords) corresponding to the Registrant,
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, and Billing Contact roles.
Some of those contacts have more authority than others; Registrant has
the most. See:
https://www.gandi.net/static/contracts/en/g1/pdf/general_conditions_2.0.pdf
> we have several sub-domain (for example Brazil - br.tldp.org) that
> need update.
That has nothing to do with the domain ownership: It's controlled in
the DNS. The DNS is published by two nameservers at UNC.
> who have the login info to do so? I can do (ldp registrar, gandi, is
> also mine, so I know the procedure).
Good question. That would be whoever was given the relevant Gandi.net
"Access Code" tokens.
> on the mean time, who is paying the bill?
I would speculate, Guylhem.
I note two things:
1. Current domain bill is paid through 2012. (Good. Someone's
thinking properly!)
2. Gandi.net permit anyone to submit renewal money for a domain hosted
through them. (https://www.gandi.net/domain/renew/contact/) Not all
registrars have this advantage. Gandi.net is one of the good ones.
--
Cheers, "I'm sorry Dan, what's right isn't always popular,
Rick Moen and what's popular isn't always right."
####@####.#### -- George R. Moscone, Nov. 27, 1978
