discuss: Thread: Getting Started With Working With Git


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Subject: Re: Getting Started With Working With Git
From: "Martin A. Brown" ####@####.####
Date: 9 Feb 2016 15:42:01 +0000
Message-Id: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1602090723261.2025@znpeba.jbaqresebt.arg>

>> You are going to really turn off people if you want contributors 
>> to understand how github works. 

I hope not, but, possibly.  But, it's true that this could be 
intimidating or discouraging.

I think the main point is not to require that people use GitHub if 
they don't want to, right David?

>> In order to upload a file of about 100K bytes I have to first 
>> download a file of 500 MB or download 5000 times as much as I 
>> upload!  I've only got a dialup modem on this PC of 28k bps.  It 
>> will only take 50 hours to download if there is no congestion.
>
>There is compression, and it’s only the first time that you’re 
>downloading the entire repository.  I just did a git clone and I 
>downloaded just shy of 150MiB (148.79 to be precise).  After that, 
>you’re only sending and receiving deltas so your 100k upload will 
>be ~100k.
>
>git is used by a large number of projects that are far larger than 
>tLDP so I don’t think that using it will be too much overhead for 
>prospective contributors.  Though there’s no requirement to use git 
>or github to contribute….

Agreed.  The tool works for us and it works for some significant 
subset of our discipline, but not everybody uses (or is interested 
in using a git or a DVCS).  And some people prefer not to use 
GitHub.

For those who have contributions and do not or will not use GitHub, 
email works.

In that light, here's some suggested text for the LDP Author Guide 
(someplace):

  TLDP accept contributions via ####@####.#### in addition to 
  github pull requests. An LDP volunteer will take responsiblity for 
  applying the patch or committing the submitted document and 
  confirming and communicating with the submitter.

Judging from my read of the discussion over the weekend, we are all, 
roughly speaking in agreement about this....

-Martin

-- 
Martin A. Brown
http://linux-ip.net/
Subject: Re: Getting Started With Working With Git
From: Mark Komarinski ####@####.####
Date: 9 Feb 2016 15:59:01 +0000
Message-Id: <56BA0CFD.8070904@wayga.org>


On 2/9/2016 10:43 AM, Martin A. Brown wrote:
> Agreed.  The tool works for us and it works for some significant
> subset of our discipline, but not everybody uses (or is interested
> in using a git or a DVCS).  And some people prefer not to use
> GitHub.
>
> For those who have contributions and do not or will not use GitHub,
> email works.
>
> In that light, here's some suggested text for the LDP Author Guide
> (someplace):
>
>    TLDP accept contributions via ####@####.#### in addition to
>    github pull requests. An LDP volunteer will take responsiblity for
>    applying the patch or committing the submitted document and
>    confirming and communicating with the submitter.
>
> Judging from my read of the discussion over the weekend, we are all,
> roughly speaking in agreement about this....
>

I have something similar to that in there now but I can make it clearer 
(check the current version in GitHub).  Given submit isn't working (or 
is it?) the current instructions are to e-mail discuss@ and a volunteer 
will work with them to get it put in.

-Mark
Subject: Re: Getting Started With Working With Git
From: "Martin A. Brown" ####@####.####
Date: 9 Feb 2016 16:13:10 +0000
Message-Id: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1602090808400.2025@znpeba.jbaqresebt.arg>

>> Agreed.  The tool works for us and it works for some significant
>> subset of our discipline, but not everybody uses (or is interested
>> in using a git or a DVCS).  And some people prefer not to use
>> GitHub.
>>
>> For those who have contributions and do not or will not use GitHub,
>> email works.
>>
>> In that light, here's some suggested text for the LDP Author Guide
>> (someplace):
>>
>>   TLDP accept contributions via ####@####.#### in addition to
>>   github pull requests. An LDP volunteer will take responsiblity for
>>   applying the patch or committing the submitted document and
>>   confirming and communicating with the submitter.
>>
>> Judging from my read of the discussion over the weekend, we are all,
>> roughly speaking in agreement about this....
>>
>
> I have something similar to that in there now but I can make it 
> clearer (check the current version in GitHub). 

Just looked...is this the paragraph you mean?

  https://github.com/tLDP/LDP/blob/master/LDP/guide/docbook/LDP-Author-Guide/ag-distribute.xml#L216

> Given submit isn't working (or is it?) the current instructions 
> are to e-mail discuss@ and a volunteer will work with them to get 
> it put in.

Last I knew, submit@ was not connected to a human.  I think it was 
last connected to /dev/null.  So, good choice.

-Martin

-- 
Martin A. Brown
http://linux-ip.net/
Subject: Re: Getting Started With Working With Git
From: Mark Komarinski ####@####.####
Date: 9 Feb 2016 16:19:38 +0000
Message-Id: <56BA11D2.3090904@wayga.org>


On 2/9/2016 11:14 AM, Martin A. Brown wrote:
> Just looked...is this the paragraph you mean? 
> https://github.com/tLDP/LDP/blob/master/LDP/guide/docbook/LDP-Author-Guide/ag-distribute.xml#L216

https://github.com/tLDP/LDP/blob/master/LDP/guide/docbook/LDP-Author-Guide/git.xml#L33
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