discuss: Thread: Installfest HOWTO edits

Hi,

I tried to contact Eric (AKA Rick) Meyerhoff  
<rick-at-eworld3-dot-net>, the author of the Linux Installfest HOWTO  
through several channels over the past 2 weeks. While I realize he  
does update the HOWTO on New Years and sporadically, I see that he has  
not posted in over 2.5 years and is not responding to any attempted  
communication.

My proposal is based on my recent and past experience as an  
Installfest Organizer and installer.
Attending these installfests has given me some insight to basic steps  
to make an installfest a success!

I would like to include in the HOWTO information about preparation for  
other installs such as Raspberry Pi and Banana Pi.
Also, there is information about demo servers and netboot servers for  
installation.

The installfest HOWTO could be updated and improved to reflect today's needs.

I would like to have the opportunity to make these edits for the HOWTO  
that is found at tldp.

Would I need more time to pass before I could consider this HOWTO orphaned?
What are my next steps?

Thanks!
Marcia

Quoting Marcia K Wilbur ####@####.####

Thank heavens, the licensing (GFDL 1.2 with no fixed-text sections) 
is forkable, so _that_ at least is not an obstacle.  Marcia, thank you
for offering to do this work.  It's appreciated!

Perhaps you would consider doing some initial updates of
https://github.com/tLDP/LDP/blob/master/LDP/howto/docbook/Installfest-HOWTO.xml
and just e-mailing a diff to ####@####.#### .  That is the exact
submission method I always use to send updates to the two LDP documents
I maintain.  (One of those,
https://github.com/tLDP/LDP/blob/master/LDP/howto/linuxdoc/User-Group-HOWTO.sgml,
was initially written by someone else who was obliged to hand it off,
and I mention it in case the methods I used to continue to credit
Kendall Clark and respect his copyright prove useful to you.)

Greetings from Loncon3 in the London Docklands!

-- 
Cheers,                       Do not believe you'll get the chance to choose.
Rick Moen                     Regret, by definition, comes too late;
####@####.####           Say what you mean.  Bear witness.  Iterate.
McQ! (4x80)                          Sonnet:  Against Entropy, John M. Ford

Thank you, Rick, for the quick response and information! This helps a lot.
I have already started with some updates.
Thanks for the great example also. That was a tremendous help!


Quoting Rick Moen ####@####.####

> Quoting Marcia K Wilbur ####@####.####
>
> Thank heavens, the licensing (GFDL 1.2 with no fixed-text sections)
> is forkable, so _that_ at least is not an obstacle.  Marcia, thank you
> for offering to do this work.  It's appreciated!
>
> Perhaps you would consider doing some initial updates of
> https://github.com/tLDP/LDP/blob/master/LDP/howto/docbook/Installfest-HOWTO.xml
> and just e-mailing a diff to ####@####.#### .  That is the exact
> submission method I always use to send updates to the two LDP documents
> I maintain.  (One of those,
> https://github.com/tLDP/LDP/blob/master/LDP/howto/linuxdoc/User-Group-HOWTO.sgml,
> was initially written by someone else who was obliged to hand it off,
> and I mention it in case the methods I used to continue to credit
> Kendall Clark and respect his copyright prove useful to you.)
>
> Greetings from Loncon3 in the London Docklands!
>
> --
> Cheers,                       Do not believe you'll get the chance to choose.
> Rick Moen                     Regret, by definition, comes too late;
> ####@####.####           Say what you mean.  Bear witness.  Iterate.
> McQ! (4x80)                          Sonnet:  Against Entropy, John M. Ford
>
> ______________________
> http://lists.tldp.org/

Quoting Marcia K Wilbur ####@####.####

> Thank you, Rick, for the quick response and information! This helps a lot.
> I have already started with some updates.
> Thanks for the great example also. That was a tremendous help!

Yr. very welcome.  Looks like that one's in DocBook XML format.  You'll
find a working example of the somewhat dustier DocBook _SGML_  format at
http://linuxmafia.com/wpfaq/wordperfect-linux-faq.sgml, and my lazy-ass
primitive shell script to generate single- and multi-page HTML versions
from it using 'jade' and the ldp.dsl stylesheet is as
http://linuxmafia.com/wpfaq/do .  (I tend to call most of my perfunctory
shell scripts of the moment 'do'.)

http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LDP-Author-Guide/html/transformations.html gives
an equivalent (and predictable) incantation for DocBook XML.

Other parts of that worthy document give tonnes of expert tips for
advanced editing software environments, validators, etc.  FWIW, by
contrast, I applied my standard caveman-sysadmin approach and just used
plain ol' vim with no special modes or any enhancements whatsoever.
Works for Me.[tm]
 
-- 
Cheers,                       Do not believe you'll get the chance to choose.
Rick Moen                     Regret, by definition, comes too late;
####@####.####           Say what you mean.  Bear witness.  Iterate.
McQ! (4x80)                          Sonnet:  Against Entropy, John M. Ford

I wrote:

> Perhaps you would consider doing some initial updates of
> https://github.com/tLDP/LDP/blob/master/LDP/howto/docbook/Installfest-HOWTO.xml
> and just e-mailing a diff to ####@####.#### . 
                     ^^^^^^

Sorry, I was sleepy (lingering jet lag) when I wrote that.  Not a diff,
but rather the revised source file.  The worthy LDP git repo maintainers 
will take it from there, and are fully capable of diffing it on their
own.

You'll want to include with your file attachment a [re-]explanation of 
the incumbent maintainer having possibly abandoned the document and 
been thus far unreachable, and maybe a link to this mailing list thread.

Thanks for the info!
Yes this does look like DocBook XML.
Luckily, I have done some work withDocBook XML in the past - Almost 10  
years ago now. In fact, I did use xsltproc as is mentioned in the  
transformations page. My SGML is rustier - back from the late 90s!
I don't know if I will need to proofread that way.

Glad to know I can use something simple for editing like vim.

:)




Quoting Rick Moen ####@####.####

> Quoting Marcia K Wilbur ####@####.####
>
>> Thank you, Rick, for the quick response and information! This helps a lot.
>> I have already started with some updates.
>> Thanks for the great example also. That was a tremendous help!
>
> Yr. very welcome.  Looks like that one's in DocBook XML format.  You'll
> find a working example of the somewhat dustier DocBook _SGML_  format at
> http://linuxmafia.com/wpfaq/wordperfect-linux-faq.sgml, and my lazy-ass
> primitive shell script to generate single- and multi-page HTML versions
> from it using 'jade' and the ldp.dsl stylesheet is as
> http://linuxmafia.com/wpfaq/do .  (I tend to call most of my perfunctory
> shell scripts of the moment 'do'.)
>
> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LDP-Author-Guide/html/transformations.html gives
> an equivalent (and predictable) incantation for DocBook XML.
>
> Other parts of that worthy document give tonnes of expert tips for
> advanced editing software environments, validators, etc.  FWIW, by
> contrast, I applied my standard caveman-sysadmin approach and just used
> plain ol' vim with no special modes or any enhancements whatsoever.
> Works for Me.[tm]
>
> --
> Cheers,                       Do not believe you'll get the chance to choose.
> Rick Moen                     Regret, by definition, comes too late;
> ####@####.####           Say what you mean.  Bear witness.  Iterate.
> McQ! (4x80)                          Sonnet:  Against Entropy, John M. Ford
>
> ______________________
> http://lists.tldp.org/