discuss: Thread: New Contributer

Hi. I am always led back to TLDP, and usually reference it when
helping others. I'm humbled by it's coverage and size. Unless I'm
mistaken, then activity seems a bit low.

I'm checking out the wiki and the list archives.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Wesley Werner ####@####.#### wrote:
> Hi. I am always led back to TLDP, and usually reference it when
> helping others. I'm humbled by it's coverage and size. Unless I'm
> mistaken, then activity seems a bit low.
>
> I'm checking out the wiki and the list archives.

You are more then welcome aboard!

S.

> On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 11:19:09AM +0200, Wesley Werner wrote:
>Hi. I am always led back to TLDP, and usually reference it when
>helping others. I'm humbled by it's coverage and size. Unless I'm
>mistaken, then activity seems a bit low.
>
>I'm checking out the wiki and the list archives.

Since WIKI was invented, most have ran to WIKI as it's much easier to write, 
correct and maintain.  Easier for everybody.  However, commandline junkies 
enjoy tldp from what I see.

-- 
Roger
http://rogerx.freeshell.org/

Le 09/05/2012 19:25, Roger a écrit :

> Since WIKI was invented, most have ran to WIKI as it's much easier to write,
> correct and maintain.  Easier for everybody.  However, commandline junkies
> enjoy tldp from what I see.
>
we have a wiki, but the wiki is not that good for spreading info 
offline :-)

jdd

> On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:02:03PM +0200, jdd wrote:
>Le 09/05/2012 19:25, Roger a écrit :
>
>> Since WIKI was invented, most have ran to WIKI as it's much easier to write,
>> correct and maintain.  Easier for everybody.  However, commandline junkies
>> enjoy tldp from what I see.
>>
>we have a wiki, but the wiki is not that good for spreading info 
>offline :-)

Matter of fact, I think the TLDP WIKI is missing "Print to" (or "Export to")
PDF/PS on the individual WIKI pages!  Might be also nice to see "Print to" or 
"Export to" links to EPUB format.

From EPUB or PDF formats, most users can easily convert documents to MOBI using 
the Amazon.com's binary kindlegen for thier Kindles, or into any other formats 
they require.

-- 
Roger
http://rogerx.freeshell.org/

Le 09/05/2012 20:51, Roger a écrit :

> Matter of fact, I think the TLDP WIKI is missing "Print to" (or "Export to")
> PDF/PS on the individual WIKI pages!

simply use firefox print to, then choose pdf... you have the result 
with a print style sheet

there is also an export to docbook option, but this need to be 
debugged and we lack a python programmer to do so

jdd

On May 9, 2012 7:25 PM, "Roger" wrote:
> However, commandline junkies enjoy tldp from what I see.

Myself included. So I take it text or docbook is the preferred format?

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Wesley Werner ####@####.#### wrote:
> On May 9, 2012 7:25 PM, "Roger" wrote:
>> However, commandline junkies enjoy tldp from what I see.
>
> Myself included. So I take it text or docbook is the preferred format?

docbook is preferred :-)

cheers,
serge

> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 08:33:55AM +0200, jdd wrote:
>Le 10/05/2012 03:04, Roger a écrit :
>>
>
>> But doing so will include the upper right search box and upper right menus.
>> Also including the top menu links for recent changes, findpage, helpcontents,
>
>obviously you didn't try it
>
>jdd

Almost every time when printing using a browser's "Print to file" option, I 
have always seen the embedded search boxes or website markups included, 
including the actual article only printing to a smaller portion of the page due 
to the additional web markups.  As such, it is reasonable users simply take for 
granted the lacking of the "print to file" option of their browser, and will 
usually rely on the embedded page link to "show printer version" of a page they 
intend to send to a printer.  Hence, users will refrain from using the 
browser's print to file, unless they actually see the markups have been 
removed.  (ie.  Using the embedded, "Printer Version" link.) To check every 
file, is a waste of time as most sites either do not incorporate such a 
feature, or it's a new feature for the Seamonkey/Mozilla/Firefox browsers.

However, since you sited I haven't tried it, I tried it and find the TLDP site 
seems to amazingly print, excluding markups and embedded search boxes.  
Unknowingly, somehow the browser's "print to file" is pulling the "print style 
sheet" as you stated.

It might be wise to post a notice somehow, on each page, informing readers, 
their browser's "print to file" option will pull a printer style CSS and omit 
web markups and search boxes on their hard copy or file.

Other then this, I checked the Disk Encryption HOWTO and it seems fine except 
for an ugly font issue.  The font doesn't seem to handle resizing to a larger 
size very well.  I tested using both, epdfview and acroread.

-- 
Roger
http://rogerx.freeshell.org/

> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 09:30:32AM -0800, Roger wrote:
>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 08:33:55AM +0200, jdd wrote:
>>Le 10/05/2012 03:04, Roger a écrit :
>>>
>>
>>> But doing so will include the upper right search box and upper right menus.
>>> Also including the top menu links for recent changes, findpage, helpcontents,
>>
>>obviously you didn't try it
>>
>>jdd
>
>Almost every time when printing using a browser's "Print to file" option, I 

Never mind.  Somebody has done a very meticulous job, and the "show print 
version" is within the subliminal "More actions" drop done menu.  (No wonder I 
completely skipped over it!)

How about changing the wording "More Actions" to something a little more 
intuitive such as "Viewing Options"? ;-)


-- 
Roger
http://rogerx.freeshell.org/