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old linuxdoc.org links
From: "jdd for http://tldp.org" ####@####.#### Date: 29 Nov 2008 14:55:31 +0000 Message-Id: <4931574C.3040304@dodin.org> Hello, as said in the other thread about ads, we have many HOWTOs, mostly historical ones, with links to linuxdoc.org or similar sending to a commercial Web site. I recently had to cope with the problem of Moin wiki refusing to save with a imaginary URL (given in the doc as example purpose), even as raw ({{{}}}) To be able to save, I simply add a space (or ) in the URL May be we can find an other special character allowed by the wiki (and may be by docbook) but giving an incorrect URL. If this is not or essentially not visible in the html rendering, I think we can cope with this even if the licence don't allow modification. (if we can modify, there is no problem) I know there is always discussion, but I think such modif is acceptable for us. If any author complain, we will only remove the doc. ideas? jdd -- jdd for the Linux Documentation Project http://wiki.tldp.org http://www.dodin.net | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: [discuss] old linuxdoc.org links
From: Rick Moen ####@####.#### Date: 1 Dec 2008 10:57:30 +0000 Message-Id: <20081201105627.GH28362@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Jean-Daniel Dodin ####@####.#### > Hello, as said in the other thread about ads, we have many HOWTOs, > mostly historical ones, with links to linuxdoc.org or similar sending > to a commercial Web site. This really should be fixed. > May be we can find an other special character allowed by the wiki (and > may be by docbook) but giving an incorrect URL. > > If this is not or essentially not visible in the html rendering, I > think we can cope with this even if the licence don't allow > modification. (if we can modify, there is no problem) Um, no. Plainly, that _is_ still modification, and thus technical copyright violation if no copyright owner licence grants the right of modification. Surely that is pretty obvious? (As noted, there are particular types of trivial modification that in my considered view LDP _should_ carry out even in absence of licence grants, as essentially harmless and in everyone's best interest. However, this business of saying "it's not really modification and not a licence violation" should cease, as that is obviously just not true.) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: [discuss] old linuxdoc.org links
From: "jdd for http://tldp.org" ####@####.#### Date: 1 Dec 2008 13:48:17 +0000 Message-Id: <4933EA8A.808@dodin.org> Rick Moen a écrit : > essentially harmless and in everyone's best interest. However, this > business of saying "it's not really modification and not a licence > violation" should cease, as that is obviously just not true.) I didn't say so. I only said we can cope with, that is defend it in front of the public - probably also in front of a judge, don't forget law violation's consequence is appreciated by the judge, one can be guilty but condemned to nothing. but it *is* licence violation. The only other solution we have is to remove the doc from the LDP collection. Have we do do this? jdd -- jdd for the Linux Documentation Project http://wiki.tldp.org http://www.dodin.net | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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