Subject:
Re: [discuss] Would like to maintain Linux Networking Howto
From:
"O.R.Senthil Kumaran" ####@####.####
Date:
16 Sep 2008 06:35:41 +0100
Message-Id: <20080916053531.GA5054@gmail.com>
Thank you very much for the quick reply, Mr. Rubini. I shall contact Terry
Dawson regarding this.
One of the points which is worth noticing for the TLDP is the following.
> >> GFDL is the best choice for us, may be somebody can explain us if
> >> the change GPL->is possible easily
>
> No. It is not easy. The copyright holders (_all_ the copytight
> holders) should agree to re-release under a different license. GPL and
> GFDL are incompatible licenses, so no automatic conversion is
> possibile in either direction -- that's why it's so bad that gnu
> documents are not gpl any more (imho).
>
Which makes it clear, that None of the TLDP documents which are GPL Licensed
can be made into a wikibook and hosted en.wikibooks.org, unless all the authors
agree to releasing the document under GFDL.
Thats should be okay. TLDP itself is undergoing certain changes to port the
documents to wiki.tldp.org and I am assuming that all the licenses will remain
intact and this wiki does not have any restrictions with respect to Licenses.
To TLDP list:
I just re-visited wiki.tldp.org and found that it has undergone a wonderful
change. Few months ago, it was in a bad shape (with Spams) and I decided upon
on wikibooks.org site. Now I feel that it is better to migrate all the TLDP
Documents to wiki.tldp.org and expose it to the world.
Thank you,
Senthil
* scriptor Alessandro Rubini, explico
>
> Hello Senthil.
>
> I added Terry Dawson in Cc, hoping at least one of the addresses I got
> is still working (hi Terry).
>
>
> > You are mentioned as the Maintainer of
> > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NET3-4-HOWTO.html
>
> Well, I have been. Ages ago. I worked on it a few months, then time
> disappeared (it happens, oh so often...) and the document began stagnating.
>
> I was cooperating with LDP maintainance back then, and all of a sudden
> Mr. Joshua Poet appeared, and he offered to do a great lot of things.
> One of the things he wanted to do is maintain the net-howto. While I
> didn't completely agree on his ideas, he looked very active,
> definitely more than what I could ever be, so I couldn't deny the
> net-howto a new life. While feeling somewhat guilty towards Terry
> Dawson, the original author, I agreed to hand maintainance over to Poet.
>
> Therefore I'm surprised to hear it's marked as unmaintained, as Poet
> was in touch with LDP management -- he even entered the LDP core team,
> IIRC. While he wanted to make it more like a web site or something
> (thus obsoleting the classical howto documental form), this was known
> to the LDP.
>
> Unfortunately, all of this was in another life and ages passed since
> then. I never checked what happened to the howto or the web-centered
> initiative of mr. Poet., I just knew I was no more the net-howto
> maintainer, a task I couldn't afford anyways after the initial burst
> of activity.
>
> > I am willing to maintain this document further and also host it at wikibooks
> > project under GNU Free Documentation License.
> >
> > http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Linux_Networking_How-To
>
> That's great. I have no problems with that: I'm happy if previous work
> reveals useful and is brought onwards. However, you should probably
> dig around what happened with Joshua Poet and his own initiative: you
> might find the document improved after I left it -- or you might find
> nothing happened after all.
>
> If you want help digging for information, I can look in my oh so old
> email folders; just ask. I didn't save all email back then, but I
> think I have enough references about what happened and what has been
> decided. I won't disclose private email, but most of the information
> was meant to be public anyways.
>
> As for the license, I'm not completely happy about the GFDL (let's say
> I share all of Debian's concerns (and yes, rms knows I'm such a bad
> gnu member, we had some talk about that years ago). But I'm not
> opposed to it, it if's the only way to enter the chosen distribution
> channel. Well, I'm especially not opposed if no invariant parts are
> sticked to the document, although I can't deny that kind of doping,
> given the license itself.
>
> But please remember to ask Terry Dawson as well. He's the author of a
> relevant part of the material (most of it, if I remembed well).
> I've only been the maintainer (and thus co-author, since I added or
> updated parts), not the exclusive copytight holder.
>
> >> GFDL is the best choice for us, may be somebody can explain us if
> >> the change GPL->is possible easily
>
> No. It is not easy. The copyright holders (_all_ the copytight
> holders) should agree to re-release under a different license. GPL and
> GFDL are incompatible licenses, so no automatic conversion is
> possibile in either direction -- that's why it's so bad that gnu
> documents are not gpl any more (imho).
>
> Thanks for your interest, and good luck with the networking howto.
> /alessandro
--
O.R.Senthil Kumaran
http://uthcode.sarovar.org
