discuss: Thread: Are the DocBook tools used by ldp available to the general public?

I found some entries via google that point to a www.happy-monkey.net
site that seems to have (have had?) some LDP docs/tools that might be of
interest to someone learning DocBook/XML but this site appears to have
been down for some time. 

The tldp.org site also references the my.core.com/~dhorton/docbook site
for style sheets but I am refused access to this site.  

Are these tools and documentation available to the general population
or is it necessary to become an linux documentation contributor to have
access to them?

Please advise.

Thanks,
cga

On 08/03/07, cga2000 ####@####.#### wrote:
> I found some entries via google that point to a www.happy-monkey.net
> site that seems to have (have had?) some LDP docs/tools that might be of
> interest to someone learning DocBook/XML but this site appears to have
> been down for some time.
>
> The tldp.org site also references the my.core.com/~dhorton/docbook site
> for style sheets but I am refused access to this site.
>
> Are these tools and documentation available to the general population
> or is it necessary to become an linux documentation contributor to have
> access to them?

The tools are available in CVS -- try http://cvs.tldp.org/index.cgi/LDP

Dan Scott

On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 09:31:18PM EST, Dan Scott wrote:
> On 08/03/07, cga2000 ####@####.#### wrote:
> >I found some entries via google that point to a www.happy-monkey.net
> >site that seems to have (have had?) some LDP docs/tools that might be of
> >interest to someone learning DocBook/XML but this site appears to have
> >been down for some time.
> >
> >The tldp.org site also references the my.core.com/~dhorton/docbook site
> >for style sheets but I am refused access to this site.
> >
> >Are these tools and documentation available to the general population
> >or is it necessary to become an linux documentation contributor to have
> >access to them?
> 
> The tools are available in CVS -- try http://cvs.tldp.org/index.cgi/LDP
> 
> Dan Scott

Great..!  This should save me a lot of time and effort.

Will take a look over the weekend and see if I can figure out how to
use them. 

Thanks,
cga.

cga2000 wrote:
> I found some entries via google that point to a www.happy-monkey.net
> site that seems to have (have had?) some LDP docs/tools that might be of
> interest to someone learning DocBook/XML but this site appears to have
> been down for some time. 
>
>   
The site is up and the TLDP docbook stuff is at: 
http://www.happy-monkey.net/docbook/tldp/
> The tldp.org site also references the my.core.com/~dhorton/docbook site
> for style sheets but I am refused access to this site.  
>
>   
The core.com site is no longer up.  All of the stuff was moved to 
www.happy-monkey.net

On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 08:24:05PM EST, David Horton wrote:
> cga2000 wrote:
> >I found some entries via google that point to a www.happy-monkey.net
> >site that seems to have (have had?) some LDP docs/tools that might be of
> >interest to someone learning DocBook/XML but this site appears to have
> >been down for some time. 
> >
> >  
> The site is up and the TLDP docbook stuff is at: 
> http://www.happy-monkey.net/docbook/tldp/
> >The tldp.org site also references the my.core.com/~dhorton/docbook site
> >for style sheets but I am refused access to this site.  
> >
> >  
> The core.com site is no longer up.  All of the stuff was moved to 
> www.happy-monkey.net

Hmm .. just tried www.happy-monkey.net and timed out. 

I'll try again some time over the weekend.

Thanks,
cga

On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 11:46:41PM EST, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> 
> On 03/09/2007 10:18:03 PM, cga2000 wrote:

[..]

> >Hmm .. just tried www.happy-monkey.net and timed out.
> >
> >I'll try again some time over the weekend.
> 
> Works for me right now.

Timed out again.

Seems I can't get beyond Chicago:

[..]

 7  ae-2-54.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.97.97)  8.975 ms ae-2-52.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.97.33)  8.372 ms ae-2-56.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.97.161)  6.819 ms
 8  ae-0-0.bbr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (64.159.1.34)  29.589 ms  32.025 ms as-1-0.bbr1.Chicago1.Level3.net (64.159.0.237)  27.535 ms
 9  ae-12-55.car2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.68.101.131)  28.334 ms ae-22-54.car2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.68.101.99)  28.714 ms ae-12-51.car2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.68.101.3)  28.766 ms
10  unknown.Level3.net (166.90.208.206)  27.788 ms  32.952 ms  28.739 ms
11  220.ge-3-0.er1.chi1.speakeasy.net (69.17.83.154)  30.810 ms  30.173 ms  35.785 ms
12  * * *
13  * * *
14  * * *

[..]

Hopefully this is a temporary problem.

Thanks,
cga

On 03/10/2007 12:39:39 AM, cga2000 wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 11:46:41PM EST, Karl O. Pinc wrote:

> > On 03/09/2007 10:18:03 PM, cga2000 wrote:

> > >Hmm .. just tried www.happy-monkey.net and timed out.

> > Works for me right now.

> Timed out again.
> 
> Seems I can't get beyond Chicago:

> 11  220.ge-3-0.er1.chi1.speakeasy.net (69.17.83.154)  30.810 ms
> 30.173 ms  35.785 ms

> Hopefully this is a temporary problem.

I'm on that gateway, he's 1 hop away from me, and I can't
ping or traceroute either.  I think he's got that turned
off.  So, that's not the problem.

Could it be that happy-monkey is blocking your netblock
or your browser?

Karl ####@####.####
Free Software:  "You don't pay back, you pay forward."
                  -- Robert A. Heinlein

On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 11:03:07AM EST, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> 
> On 03/10/2007 12:39:39 AM, cga2000 wrote:
> >On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 11:46:41PM EST, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> 
> >> On 03/09/2007 10:18:03 PM, cga2000 wrote:
> 
> >> >Hmm .. just tried www.happy-monkey.net and timed out.
> 
> >> Works for me right now.
> 
> >Timed out again.
> >
> >Seems I can't get beyond Chicago:
> 
> >11  220.ge-3-0.er1.chi1.speakeasy.net (69.17.83.154)  30.810 ms
> >30.173 ms  35.785 ms
> 
> >Hopefully this is a temporary problem.
> 
> I'm on that gateway, he's 1 hop away from me, and I can't
> ping or traceroute either.  I think he's got that turned
> off.  So, that's not the problem.
> 
> Could it be that happy-monkey is blocking your netblock
> or your browser?

Tried it again, faking IE 6.0 WinXP and still no go.

So it's likely the netblock is the culprit.

Not sure how I could confirm this and what I can do about it .. My ISP's
tech support don't go much beyond "OK sir, now please click on the Start
button".

Thanks,
cga

On 03/10/2007 02:57:13 PM, cga2000 wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 11:03:07AM EST, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> >
> > On 03/10/2007 12:39:39 AM, cga2000 wrote:
> > >On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 11:46:41PM EST, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> >
> > >> On 03/09/2007 10:18:03 PM, cga2000 wrote:
> >
> > >> >Hmm .. just tried www.happy-monkey.net and timed out.

> > >Seems I can't get beyond Chicago:
> >
> > >11  220.ge-3-0.er1.chi1.speakeasy.net (69.17.83.154)  30.810 ms
> > >30.173 ms  35.785 ms

> > Could it be that happy-monkey is blocking your netblock
> > or your browser?
> 
> Tried it again, faking IE 6.0 WinXP and still no go.
> 
> So it's likely the netblock is the culprit.
> 
> Not sure how I could confirm this and what I can do about it .. My
> ISP's
> tech support don't go much beyond "OK sir, now please click on the
> Start
> button".

It wouldn't be something that your ISP could do anything about,
your traceroute shows you getting to the box that's (probably)
connected to happy-monkey.  It's unlikely the problem is in
the network.

Try complaining to happy-monkey, they may have you blocked for
some reason (like somebody who was once in your IP block once annoyed
them.)


Karl ####@####.####
Free Software:  "You don't pay back, you pay forward."
                  -- Robert A. Heinlein

On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 04:03:24PM EST, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> 
> On 03/10/2007 02:57:13 PM, cga2000 wrote:
> >On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 11:03:07AM EST, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> >>
> >> On 03/10/2007 12:39:39 AM, cga2000 wrote:
> >> >On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 11:46:41PM EST, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> >>
> >> >> On 03/09/2007 10:18:03 PM, cga2000 wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >Hmm .. just tried www.happy-monkey.net and timed out.
> 
> >> >Seems I can't get beyond Chicago:
> >>
> >> >11  220.ge-3-0.er1.chi1.speakeasy.net (69.17.83.154)  30.810 ms
> >> >30.173 ms  35.785 ms
> 
> >> Could it be that happy-monkey is blocking your netblock
> >> or your browser?
> >
> >Tried it again, faking IE 6.0 WinXP and still no go.
> >
> >So it's likely the netblock is the culprit.
> >
> >Not sure how I could confirm this and what I can do about it .. My
> >ISP's
> >tech support don't go much beyond "OK sir, now please click on the
> >Start
> >button".
> 
> It wouldn't be something that your ISP could do anything about,
> your traceroute shows you getting to the box that's (probably)
> connected to happy-monkey.  It's unlikely the problem is in
> the network.
> 
> Try complaining to happy-monkey, they may have you blocked for
> some reason (like somebody who was once in your IP block once annoyed
> them.)

It figures.  And happy-monkey should have some motivation to reinstate
me .. 

If worse comes to worse, I guess I could try downloading what I need to
someone else's machine and uploading it to a server that I can access
from my home machine. 

Thanks,
cga