discuss: Thread: small & silent servers

Hello,

I've got some questions... and want to prove that I'm serious.

Below is a sort of table of contents for my HOWTO. I'm aware that
posting it to the list is not the best option, but I absolutely wnat to
get something out of the door. Sorry to all low-bandwidth users out
there (if there still are any).
The actual text is quite finished down to the "Fans" section, the
remainder is mostly in existence, but a terrible mess at the moment.

Would someone agree to put it up on his/her website, and update it once
a week? (I don't belive that I will change it more often)
While I've surely got some webspace with my ISP, I never bothered to
find out how to make use of it; and I don't want to set up a web
presence with all it's legal sideshows. At least not yet. Maybe next
year.

Then, my text is in german. It's too early to have it translated, I
believe -- quite likely some peer review will lead to many changes and
additions. But how do I get german peer review? I did subscribe to this
mailing list only because I couldn't find a german list. Or did I miss
something?

cu,
Schnobs


---TOC of small-and-silent-servers---

General Considerations

* what do I mean with "small & silent"?
* security
* Maintenance
* power consumption
* noise: avoidance and dampening


Suitable Hardware

* general run-down

* old and new disks
-- general
-- new disk and old BIOS
-- SCSI and noflushd 
-- flash devices
-- CD-ROM
-- no disk

* MoBo & CPU
--general
--new Hardware (epia)
--386
--486
--586(old)
--586(not quite as old)
--PII, PIII, Celeron
--Athlon & Duron

* Power Supply

* Fans


Setup

* general rules 

* truly fanless? (that's difficult)
--how much heat may be exchanged passively (ISO 6946)
--"hot spots"

* encore: power consumption and excess heat
--very brief summary
--power consumption measurements
--fan rpm measurements
--passive heat exchange

* setup: specifically for small & silent
--airflow inside the box
--air exchange with the outside world
--dust filter
--fan rpm control
---sense and (lack of) use
---do-it-yourself
--noise insulation
---for harddisks
---for the case


How to force a harddisk into standby mode

* noflushd: common gotchas

* how to operate services from RAM

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On Wed, 12 May 2004, Christian Schnobrich wrote:

> Would someone agree to put it up on his/her website, and update it once
> a week? (I don't belive that I will change it more often)

Christian,

I can do that, if you want.

> Then, my text is in german. It's too early to have it translated, I
> believe -- quite likely some peer review will lead to many changes and
> additions. But how do I get german peer review? I did subscribe to this
> mailing list only because I couldn't find a german list. Or did I miss
> something?

The German LDP project as listed in http://tldp.org/vlist.html#te, 
http://www.linuxhaven.de/dlhp/, seems to be quite dead indeed.  I check it 
regularly for new items, to put into TLDP WN, but the last half year 
nothing new has seen the daylight there.  If somebody else volunteers to 
help you with this, that would be better, but if you don't find anybody, I 
understand enough German to review your text - don't ask me to do spelling 
checks, however ;-)

Tille.

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My Penguin, my freedom.		http://tille.soti.org
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Hello Schnobs, 

> But how do I get german peer review? I did subscribe to this
> mailing list only because I couldn't find a german list. Or did I miss
> something?

I can help with German if everything else fails -- as long as it can 
be /Übermorgen/ rather than /jetzt sofort/ =8).

Oh, and one note:

> * MoBo & CPU

If at all possible, you might want to include PowerPC systems like the Apple 
G4 and G5.  My iBook G4 is absolutely silent -- wonderful, actually.

Y, Scot

-- 
                Scot W. Stevenson - Panketal, Germany

Wenns um ein Review in Deutsch geht kann ich dir auch unter die Arme
greifen.

For our english-speaking friends:  i am able to help in a
german-review-process

Thomas

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Christian Schnobrich ####@####.####
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Mai 2004 17:42
> An: ####@####.####
> Betreff: small & silent servers
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I've got some questions... and want to prove that I'm serious.
>
> Below is a sort of table of contents for my HOWTO. I'm aware that
> posting it to the list is not the best option, but I absolutely wnat to
> get something out of the door. Sorry to all low-bandwidth users out
> there (if there still are any).
> The actual text is quite finished down to the "Fans" section, the
> remainder is mostly in existence, but a terrible mess at the moment.
>
> Would someone agree to put it up on his/her website, and update it once
> a week? (I don't belive that I will change it more often)
> While I've surely got some webspace with my ISP, I never bothered to
> find out how to make use of it; and I don't want to set up a web
> presence with all it's legal sideshows. At least not yet. Maybe next
> year.
>
> Then, my text is in german. It's too early to have it translated, I
> believe -- quite likely some peer review will lead to many changes and
> additions. But how do I get german peer review? I did subscribe to this
> mailing list only because I couldn't find a german list. Or did I miss
> something?
>
> cu,
> Schnobs
>
>
> ---TOC of small-and-silent-servers---
>
> General Considerations
>
> * what do I mean with "small & silent"?
> * security
> * Maintenance
> * power consumption
> * noise: avoidance and dampening
>
>
> Suitable Hardware
>
> * general run-down
>
> * old and new disks
> -- general
> -- new disk and old BIOS
> -- SCSI and noflushd
> -- flash devices
> -- CD-ROM
> -- no disk
>
> * MoBo & CPU
> --general
> --new Hardware (epia)
> --386
> --486
> --586(old)
> --586(not quite as old)
> --PII, PIII, Celeron
> --Athlon & Duron
>
> * Power Supply
>
> * Fans
>
>
> Setup
>
> * general rules
>
> * truly fanless? (that's difficult)
> --how much heat may be exchanged passively (ISO 6946)
> --"hot spots"
>
> * encore: power consumption and excess heat
> --very brief summary
> --power consumption measurements
> --fan rpm measurements
> --passive heat exchange
>
> * setup: specifically for small & silent
> --airflow inside the box
> --air exchange with the outside world
> --dust filter
> --fan rpm control
> ---sense and (lack of) use
> ---do-it-yourself
> --noise insulation
> ---for harddisks
> ---for the case
>
>
> How to force a harddisk into standby mode
>
> * noflushd: common gotchas
>
> * how to operate services from RAM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________
> http://lists.tldp.org/
>

Hello,

Und wenn ein deutschsprachiger Englischmuttersprachler benoetigt
wird, stelle ich mich zuer Verfuegung.  Or something like that.

 : Wenns um ein Review in Deutsch geht kann ich dir auch unter die
 : Arme greifen.
 :
 : For our english-speaking friends:  i am able to help in a
 : german-review-process

I am offering my help as a German-speaking native English speaker,
if need be.

-Martin

--
Martin A. Brown --- Wonderfrog Enterprises --- ####@####.####

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On Thu, 13 May 2004, Martin A. Brown wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Und wenn ein deutschsprachiger Englischmuttersprachler benoetigt
> wird, stelle ich mich zuer Verfuegung.  Or something like that.

I think they can do without our help :)  Nice try though ;-)

Tille.

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My Penguin, my freedom.		http://tille.soti.org
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On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 21:21, Machtelt Garrels wrote:

> I think they can do without our help :)  Nice try though ;-)
> 
Huh? I don't think I'll refuse any help, ever.

Thanks to Machtelt Garrels, the current version of the HOWTO is
available for download at
http://tille.soti.org/kleine_leise_server_HOWTO.txt

IMO it is too early for translations or a conversion to DocBook. But I'd
really like to have some feedback about the content: too terse? too
lengthy? something missing?
Can anyone else but me even understand it?

cu,
Schnobs