discuss: Thread: Unmaintained: BASH Programming - Introduction HOWTO

Tille,

It looks like your new Guide replaces this "Unmaintained" document:	
	http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
Could you please check through the contents and let me know if that's the
case?

Also in the unmaintained list:
	http://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/unmaintained/Colour-ls
could be replaced by:
	http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x329.html

thanks,
emma

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Emma Jane Hogbin
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On Thu, 6 May 2004, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:

> Tille,
> 
> It looks like your new Guide replaces this "Unmaintained" document:	
> 	http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
> Could you please check through the contents and let me know if that's the
> case?

Dear Emma,

I remember this post and also found it again:
http://lists.tldp.org/index.cgi?1:mss:6445
This is from Jan 2004 and states that Jeremy Heilman will be the new 
owner.  Have we heard from him since?  
Originally, I wrote the guide to bridge the gap between this HOWTO and the 
Advanced Bash scripting guide.  (That's not true, I wrote it because I 
didn't want to teach Korn shell over at Sun, but true enough for TLDP 
purpose).  As far as I'm concerned, I see no harm in a short explanation 
of Bash programming using the command line and maybe some very simple 
example scripts.  For those users over at the Flemish community and 
ministeries elsewhere in the world, who need a little script for every 
UNIX command because they cannot remember the options ;-)

> Also in the unmaintained list:
> 	http://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/unmaintained/Colour-ls
> could be replaced by:

No, this is only related because it is about colours, imho.  But Colour-ls 
is now a non-issue, since everybody using Linux has it by default, if I'm 
not mistaking.  It is still an issue on Solaris, but that's not our 
problem here :)

> 	http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x329.html

This is still valid, of course.

Tille.

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On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 11:36:12AM -0500, Machtelt Garrels wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 2004, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> > It looks like your new Guide replaces this "Unmaintained" document:	
> > 	http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html

> I remember this post and also found it again:
> http://lists.tldp.org/index.cgi?1:mss:6445
> This is from Jan 2004 and states that Jeremy Heilman will be the new 
> owner.  Have we heard from him since?  

I haven't heard from him, and the Unmaintained list actually says that
Francis Litterio ####@####.#### is supposed to be the new maintainer.
I'll have to ask around to see who's really responsible for it....

Just to clarify, we now have four Bash documents in our collection:
	http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
	http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/
	http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
	http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html
(http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/os.html#OSSHELL needs to be
updated)
	
> > Also in the unmaintained list:
> > 	http://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/unmaintained/Colour-ls
> > could be replaced by:
> > 	http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x329.html
> 
> No, this is only related because it is about colours, imho.  But Colour-ls 
> is now a non-issue, since everybody using Linux has it by default, if I'm 
> not mistaking.  It is still an issue on Solaris, but that's not our 
> problem here :)

Yes. The first document is only about colours, and the specific page in
the second document is also only about colours. Wouldn't it be better to
send people to the Bash Prompt HOWTO, which is up-to-date, rather than a
document that only has information about colour and is out of date, and
not maintained?

emma

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Emma Jane Hogbin
[[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]]

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On Thu, 6 May 2004, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 11:36:12AM -0500, Machtelt Garrels wrote:

> > http://lists.tldp.org/index.cgi?1:mss:6445
> > This is from Jan 2004 and states that Jeremy Heilman will be the new 
> > owner.  Have we heard from him since?  
> 
> I haven't heard from him, and the Unmaintained list actually says that
> Francis Litterio ####@####.#### is supposed to be the new maintainer.
> I'll have to ask around to see who's really responsible for it....

That was earlier, according to our archives.
 
> > No, this is only related because it is about colours, imho.  But Colour-ls 
> > is now a non-issue, since everybody using Linux has it by default, if I'm 
> > not mistaking.  It is still an issue on Solaris, but that's not our 
> > problem here :)
> 
> Yes. The first document is only about colours, and the specific page in
> the second document is also only about colours. Wouldn't it be better to
> send people to the Bash Prompt HOWTO, which is up-to-date, rather than a
> document that only has information about colour and is out of date, and
> not maintained?

I'd just remove this colour-ls HOWTO, is what I meant.

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Emma,

See

http://lists.tldp.org/index.cgi?1:mss:6590
where it says that Francis Litterio is rewriting the Bash Programming 
Intro HOWTO.

That was also Jan 2004.

Tille.

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On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 02:39:26PM -0500, Machtelt Garrels wrote:
> http://lists.tldp.org/index.cgi?1:mss:6590
> where it says that Francis Litterio is rewriting the Bash Programming 
> Intro HOWTO.

Hmm. When I cleaned out the In Progress list in April I actually emailed
Francis Litterio and asked them to send an update so that I could add the
document back to the In Progress list. I didn't get a reply though. I've
emailed another request for an update. Maybe they've been on vacation or
something?

emma

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Emma Jane Hogbin
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