discuss: Thread: Help with iso image files under Windows.

I'm writing my first mini-HowTo about installing and running Linux 
under Virtual PC. I'm trying to make it apply whether the virtual 
computer is hosted on Windows or Mac OS since most of the issues seem 
to be the same. I've run into a problem with Windows, though, in that 
out of the box it doesn't seem to understand iso image files.  It can 
neither burn them nor mount them.

I've been told that on Windows folks address this with third party 
utilities but I don't have a feel for whether there is one program that 
everyone uses. If I just tell typical Windows users to mount and/or 
burn an  iso image will they understand? If I have to step them through 
it, is there some, hopefully free, program that I can recommend?

TIA,
Chris

-
It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards.
-Lewis Carroll, mathematician and writer (1832-1898)

The ISO images I have used have been handled by my CD burner SW.  But 
there are many different CD burner packages out there.  Most 
GNU/Linux/OSS documentation (e.g. Knoppix) just says you have to figure 
out how to burn a CD on your own system since they are all different.

You don't mount anything in Windows.   So I think you would just tell 
them to insert the disk and access it like normal, but I'm not sure 
exactly what context this is in.

Mark



Chris Gehlker wrote:

> I'm writing my first mini-HowTo about installing and running Linux 
> under Virtual PC. I'm trying to make it apply whether the virtual 
> computer is hosted on Windows or Mac OS since most of the issues seem 
> to be the same. I've run into a problem with Windows, though, in that 
> out of the box it doesn't seem to understand iso image files.  It can 
> neither burn them nor mount them.
>
> I've been told that on Windows folks address this with third party 
> utilities but I don't have a feel for whether there is one program 
> that everyone uses. If I just tell typical Windows users to mount 
> and/or burn an  iso image will they understand? If I have to step them 
> through it, is there some, hopefully free, program that I can recommend?
>
> TIA,
> Chris
>
> -
> It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards.
> -Lewis Carroll, mathematician and writer (1832-1898)
>
>
> ______________________
> http://lists.tldp.org/
>

On Friday, September 12, 2003, at 12:09 PM, Mark Garboden wrote:

> The ISO images I have used have been handled by my CD burner SW.  But 
> there are many different CD burner packages out there.  Most 
> GNU/Linux/OSS documentation (e.g. Knoppix) just says you have to 
> figure out how to burn a CD on your own system since they are all 
> different.

Ok. I won't try to educate the Windows folks on how to burn the iso 
files.
>
> You don't mount anything in Windows.   So I think you would just tell 
> them to insert the disk and access it like normal, but I'm not sure 
> exactly what context this is in.
>
> Mark
>
>
"Mount" is probably not the right word. Attach might be better. Let me 
provide some context.

On the Mac one can create an iso file, or any hdi file, and can tell 
VPC to treat it as a physical drive. Then on the Mac OS side you can 
tell the OS to treat the same ISO as a physical drive. It makes for a 
very easy way to move files between operating systems.

I was looking for a way to get the same functionality from VPC under 
Windows. Some nice person in private mail mentioned Winimage and Elby 
CloneCD. That's what I wanted. It looks like CloneCD is a thing of the 
past, though.


>
> Chris Gehlker wrote:
>
>> I'm writing my first mini-HowTo about installing and running Linux 
>> under Virtual PC. I'm trying to make it apply whether the virtual 
>> computer is hosted on Windows or Mac OS since most of the issues seem 
>> to be the same. I've run into a problem with Windows, though, in that 
>> out of the box it doesn't seem to understand iso image files.  It can 
>> neither burn them nor mount them.
>>
>> I've been told that on Windows folks address this with third party 
>> utilities but I don't have a feel for whether there is one program 
>> that everyone uses. If I just tell typical Windows users to mount 
>> and/or burn an  iso image will they understand? If I have to step 
>> them through it, is there some, hopefully free, program that I can 
>> recommend?
>>
>> TIA,
>> Chris
>>
>> -
>> It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards.
>> -Lewis Carroll, mathematician and writer (1832-1898)
>>
>>
>> ______________________
>> http://lists.tldp.org/
>>
>
>
> ______________________
> http://lists.tldp.org/
>
>

-
It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards.
-Lewis Carroll, mathematician and writer (1832-1898)

Hi Chris,

Sorry for the late reply, I'm getting caught up on the mailing list and
saw this from you, so I wanted to quickly say...if you were to mention
Winimage for Windows users I think it would be of great help.  I can
remember back in the day not knowing how to do this from Windows so I
could blow it away and install Linux from that CD (grin), so it may help
readers to know about it.

Just my .02-worth!

Tab


On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 15:13, Chris Gehlker wrote:

> Ok. I won't try to educate the Windows folks on how to burn the iso 
> files.

> I was looking for a way to get the same functionality from VPC under 
> Windows. Some nice person in private mail mentioned Winimage and Elby 
> CloneCD. That's what I wanted. It looks like CloneCD is a thing of the 
> past, though.

-- 
Tabatha Marshall
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Linux Documentation Project Review Coordinator (http://www.tldp.org)
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On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 11:15 AM, Tabatha Marshall wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> Sorry for the late reply, I'm getting caught up on the mailing list and
> saw this from you, so I wanted to quickly say...if you were to mention
> Winimage for Windows users I think it would be of great help.  I can
> remember back in the day not knowing how to do this from Windows so I
> could blow it away and install Linux from that CD (grin), so it may 
> help
> readers to know about it.
>
> Just my .02-worth!

I agree, Winimage is the way to to go. I found this site: 
<http://www.linuxiso.org/>  that seems to have a lot of good 
information about getting and burning ISOs under Windows.

Too many of the Linux sites seem to take the approach of: DL the image 
with wget or cURL, test it with md5sum and burn it with cdrecord.