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Subject: Suggestion: study guides
From: "M. Leo Cooper" ####@####.####
Date: 3 Jul 2003 18:04:33 -0000
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0307031054400.1663-100000@localhost.localdomain>

I have a somewhat interesting idea. How about LDP "study guides"?

For example, consider a Sysadmin Study Guide, for someone wanting to learn
Linux/Unix system administration. Such a guide would consist of a reading
list of LDP documents, HOWTOs and Guides, on this topic. These would be
listed in order from easiest (introductory level) to most difficult, with
maybe a short summary of each document. Possibly even exercises or study
assignment could be a part of this.


There could also be study guides for Linux programming, networking,
installation and setup, and other topics of interest.


Unfortunately, I can't volunteer my own time for such a project because of
other commitments.


Mendel

Subject: Re: Suggestion: study guides
From: Peter Jay Salzman ####@####.####
Date: 3 Jul 2003 18:22:54 -0000
Message-Id: <20030703182251.GA28479@dirac.org>

may not be the best idea for a few reasons:


On Thu 03 Jul 03, 11:02 AM, M. Leo Cooper ####@####.#### said:
> I have a somewhat interesting idea. How about LDP "study guides"?
> 
> For example, consider a Sysadmin Study Guide, for someone wanting to learn
> Linux/Unix system administration. Such a guide would consist of a reading
> list of LDP documents, HOWTOs and Guides, on this topic. These would be
> listed in order from easiest (introductory level) to most difficult, with
> maybe a short summary of each document. Possibly even exercises or study
> assignment could be a part of this.
> 
> 
> There could also be study guides for Linux programming, networking,
> installation and setup, and other topics of interest.

here's the first and most compelling reason:
 
> Unfortunately, I can't volunteer my own time for such a project because of
> other commitments.
 
as is most of us!


second reason:

what a sysadmin knows is too subjective; too vague.  what you should
know depends on what you're trying to do and who you're working for.

if you want a document that outlines what EVERY sys admin needs to know
(say, what "chmod" does), there are tens of thousands of documents out
there.  both free and commercial.  i'm not sure that someone's time
investment is equal to the benefit that the world wil gain from the
labor.


a third reason might be: is this what tldp wants to do?  are we in the
business of providing documentation or providing an education?  i think
providing documentation is a big enough endeavor for a bunch of unpaid
volunteers.  now if you wanted to start a commercial service that would
benefit the linux documentation project.


my own personal thought is that gaining the experience to learn what you
ought to know is a crucial step in becoming a _good_ administrator.  i
don't think a good admin is someone who learns everything that a piece
of paper tells him (or her) to learn.  i think "learning by stumbling"
is most valuable.


besides, the single most valuable skill an admin can have is to learn
how to get answers.  not necessarily to know the answers.


my two cents.  everything i said here could very well be crap.   ;-)

pete

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Subject: Re: Suggestion: study guides
From: Machtelt Garrels ####@####.####
Date: 3 Jul 2003 19:42:35 -0000
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307031440370.31140-100000@server1.us.soti.org>

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, M. Leo Cooper wrote:

> I have a somewhat interesting idea. How about LDP "study guides"?
> 
> For example, consider a Sysadmin Study Guide, for someone wanting to learn
> Linux/Unix system administration. Such a guide would consist of a reading
> list of LDP documents, HOWTOs and Guides, on this topic. These would be
> listed in order from easiest (introductory level) to most difficult, with
> maybe a short summary of each document. Possibly even exercises or study
> assignment could be a part of this.

Imho we have the HOWTO-INDEX for this, but maybe it needs to be extended 
to be an LDP-INDEX?

T.

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Subject: Re: Suggestion: study guides
From: "Chris Karakas" ####@####.####
Date: 3 Jul 2003 21:11:35 -0000
Message-Id: <20030703.GQt.96987200@www.karakas-online.de>

Yes, some kind of reindexing the HOWTOs under various criteria, that would be an
added value. Let me give an example:

See how Mark Pilgrim has organized his book on accessibility:
http://www.diveintoaccessibility.org/

There, you have the direct "Let's dive in" entry and the more classical "Table of
contents" link. But then there are a few others that organize the material from
various points of view:

----------------

[*]All tips, in the order in which they were originally published. The recommended
way to read the book for the first time: Tips by person

[*]Here the tips are grouped by the people who benefit from them: Tips by disability

[*]Here the tips are grouped by the disabilities that benefit from them. This
includes both physical and technological disabilities: Tips by design principle

[*]Here the tips are grouped by design principles proposed by the W3C. All web pages
should be perceivable, operable, navigable, understandable, and robust: Tips by web
browser

[*]Here the tips are grouped by the web browsers or assistive technologies that
benefit from them: Tips by publishing tool

----------------

Substitute "Tips" by "HOWTOs" and you get the idea. We could then add as many such
"indices" as we like, or as the volunteers send them:

[*]Here are the HOWTOs from the sysadmin's point of view: SysAdmin's HOWTOs Study
Guide

[*]Here are the HOWTOs from the Newbie's point of view: Newbie's HOWTOs Study Guide

[*]Here are the HOWTOs from the desktop's point of view: Desktop HOWTOs Study Guide

[*]Here are the HOWTOs from the server's point of view: Server HOWTOs Study Guide

[*]Here are the HOWTOs from the Geek's point of view: Geek's HOWTOs Study Guide

etc.


Each Study Guide would just be a "reindexed" List of HOWTOs, no need to be more than
that.

Chris


Machtelt Garrels ####@####.#### schrieb:
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>On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, M. Leo Cooper wrote:
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>> I have a somewhat interesting idea. How about LDP "study guides"?
>>
>> For example, consider a Sysadmin Study Guide, for someone wanting to learn
>> Linux/Unix system administration. Such a guide would consist of a reading
>> list of LDP documents, HOWTOs and Guides, on this topic. These would be
>> listed in order from easiest (introductory level) to most difficult, with
>> maybe a short summary of each document. Possibly even exercises or study
>> assignment could be a part of this.
>
>Imho we have the HOWTO-INDEX for this, but maybe it needs to be extended
>to be an LDP-INDEX?
>
>T.
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