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Suggestion: study guides
From: "M. Leo Cooper" ####@####.#### Date: 3 Jul 2003 18:04:33 -0000 Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0307031054400.1663-100000@localhost.localdomain> I have a somewhat interesting idea. How about LDP "study guides"? For example, consider a Sysadmin Study Guide, for someone wanting to learn Linux/Unix system administration. Such a guide would consist of a reading list of LDP documents, HOWTOs and Guides, on this topic. These would be listed in order from easiest (introductory level) to most difficult, with maybe a short summary of each document. Possibly even exercises or study assignment could be a part of this. There could also be study guides for Linux programming, networking, installation and setup, and other topics of interest. Unfortunately, I can't volunteer my own time for such a project because of other commitments. Mendel | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Suggestion: study guides
From: Peter Jay Salzman ####@####.#### Date: 3 Jul 2003 18:22:54 -0000 Message-Id: <20030703182251.GA28479@dirac.org> may not be the best idea for a few reasons: On Thu 03 Jul 03, 11:02 AM, M. Leo Cooper ####@####.#### said: > I have a somewhat interesting idea. How about LDP "study guides"? > > For example, consider a Sysadmin Study Guide, for someone wanting to learn > Linux/Unix system administration. Such a guide would consist of a reading > list of LDP documents, HOWTOs and Guides, on this topic. These would be > listed in order from easiest (introductory level) to most difficult, with > maybe a short summary of each document. Possibly even exercises or study > assignment could be a part of this. > > > There could also be study guides for Linux programming, networking, > installation and setup, and other topics of interest. here's the first and most compelling reason: > Unfortunately, I can't volunteer my own time for such a project because of > other commitments. as is most of us! second reason: what a sysadmin knows is too subjective; too vague. what you should know depends on what you're trying to do and who you're working for. if you want a document that outlines what EVERY sys admin needs to know (say, what "chmod" does), there are tens of thousands of documents out there. both free and commercial. i'm not sure that someone's time investment is equal to the benefit that the world wil gain from the labor. a third reason might be: is this what tldp wants to do? are we in the business of providing documentation or providing an education? i think providing documentation is a big enough endeavor for a bunch of unpaid volunteers. now if you wanted to start a commercial service that would benefit the linux documentation project. my own personal thought is that gaining the experience to learn what you ought to know is a crucial step in becoming a _good_ administrator. i don't think a good admin is someone who learns everything that a piece of paper tells him (or her) to learn. i think "learning by stumbling" is most valuable. besides, the single most valuable skill an admin can have is to learn how to get answers. not necessarily to know the answers. my two cents. everything i said here could very well be crap. ;-) pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Suggestion: study guides
From: Machtelt Garrels ####@####.#### Date: 3 Jul 2003 19:42:35 -0000 Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307031440370.31140-100000@server1.us.soti.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, M. Leo Cooper wrote: > I have a somewhat interesting idea. How about LDP "study guides"? > > For example, consider a Sysadmin Study Guide, for someone wanting to learn > Linux/Unix system administration. Such a guide would consist of a reading > list of LDP documents, HOWTOs and Guides, on this topic. These would be > listed in order from easiest (introductory level) to most difficult, with > maybe a short summary of each document. Possibly even exercises or study > assignment could be a part of this. Imho we have the HOWTO-INDEX for this, but maybe it needs to be extended to be an LDP-INDEX? T. - -- My Penguin, my freedom. http://tille.soti.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE/BIcqsIIUbMXbBA8RAjwJAJ9xaNYq91A5+0wmrf27DkmCCPcWNgCcCxYb +yDeFWcHGbkPvNii8ohvf0M= =a22j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Suggestion: study guides
From: "Chris Karakas" ####@####.#### Date: 3 Jul 2003 21:11:35 -0000 Message-Id: <20030703.GQt.96987200@www.karakas-online.de> Yes, some kind of reindexing the HOWTOs under various criteria, that would be an added value. Let me give an example: See how Mark Pilgrim has organized his book on accessibility: http://www.diveintoaccessibility.org/ There, you have the direct "Let's dive in" entry and the more classical "Table of contents" link. But then there are a few others that organize the material from various points of view: ---------------- [*]All tips, in the order in which they were originally published. The recommended way to read the book for the first time: Tips by person [*]Here the tips are grouped by the people who benefit from them: Tips by disability [*]Here the tips are grouped by the disabilities that benefit from them. This includes both physical and technological disabilities: Tips by design principle [*]Here the tips are grouped by design principles proposed by the W3C. All web pages should be perceivable, operable, navigable, understandable, and robust: Tips by web browser [*]Here the tips are grouped by the web browsers or assistive technologies that benefit from them: Tips by publishing tool ---------------- Substitute "Tips" by "HOWTOs" and you get the idea. We could then add as many such "indices" as we like, or as the volunteers send them: [*]Here are the HOWTOs from the sysadmin's point of view: SysAdmin's HOWTOs Study Guide [*]Here are the HOWTOs from the Newbie's point of view: Newbie's HOWTOs Study Guide [*]Here are the HOWTOs from the desktop's point of view: Desktop HOWTOs Study Guide [*]Here are the HOWTOs from the server's point of view: Server HOWTOs Study Guide [*]Here are the HOWTOs from the Geek's point of view: Geek's HOWTOs Study Guide etc. Each Study Guide would just be a "reindexed" List of HOWTOs, no need to be more than that. Chris Machtelt Garrels ####@####.#### schrieb: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, M. Leo Cooper wrote: > >> I have a somewhat interesting idea. How about LDP "study guides"? >> >> For example, consider a Sysadmin Study Guide, for someone wanting to learn >> Linux/Unix system administration. Such a guide would consist of a reading >> list of LDP documents, HOWTOs and Guides, on this topic. These would be >> listed in order from easiest (introductory level) to most difficult, with >> maybe a short summary of each document. Possibly even exercises or study >> assignment could be a part of this. > >Imho we have the HOWTO-INDEX for this, but maybe it needs to be extended >to be an LDP-INDEX? > >T. > >- -- > >My Penguin, my freedom. http://tille.soti.org > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > >iD8DBQE/BIcqsIIUbMXbBA8RAjwJAJ9xaNYq91A5+0wmrf27DkmCCPcWNgCcCxYb >+yDeFWcHGbkPvNii8ohvf0M= >=a22j >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >______________________ >http://lists.tldp.org/ > > -- -- Regards Chris Karakas http://www.karakas-online.de | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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