discuss: Thread: Re: Online editing

There is a great point that wont be missed: there will soon be no 
difference between inline and offline.

think at the days of 16600 bps, 5, 6 years? now at work anybody have at 
least dsl lines.

think 10 years ahead.

when Debian begun thinking net install and apt-get where was the net?

as of vi, why not use ssh and vi on the ldp side, with all the back ends 
on the ldp site? think you can do that from work through putty?

think net...

jdd

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> when Debian begun thinking net install and apt-get where was the net?

This doesn't really have to do with anything.

> as of vi, why not use ssh and vi on the ldp side, with all the back ends 
> on the ldp site? think you can do that from work through putty?

Because of the obvious security concerns that come to mind. I don't 
think we want TLDP to turn into a shell service, do we?

> think net...
> 
> jdd

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jdd wrote:

> There is a great point that wont be missed: there will soon be no 
> difference between inline and offline.


That time scale depends greatly on the country, even
within Western countries. Ttechnology is just a minor
part; politics is what controls much of telecom still.

> think at the days of 16600 bps, 5, 6 years? now at work anybody have at 
> least dsl lines.


I have high speed at work but also a crippling firewall/proxy
that makes actual use of the net very hard. With the growing
problems of spam, worms and breakins I don't expect any
improvements soon.

> think 10 years ahead.


...and it might be even worse at work. At home I expect to be
running (or rather plodding) at 28800 for years to come. This
is also the reason I appeal to all to trim replies.

> when Debian begun thinking net install and apt-get where was the net?
> 
> as of vi, why not use ssh and vi on the ldp side, with all the back ends 
> on the ldp site? think you can do that from work through putty?


I cannot use ssh from work with the current advanced security
system. A web solution might work. There is a company on the
net that offers virtual computers via web, Redhat is offered
as one type of service. If the LDP would one day offer something
similar it might be acceptable to the ever increasingly
restrictive firewalls.

> think net...


I do. Were it all open a simple X11 session (optionally via
tunnelling) could be used. However to work for all it would
have to work even in a Citrix Metaframe session.

Regards,
    Stein Gjoen

Stein Gjoen wrote:

> Strange. Try on my home page, should be at
>     http://www.nyx.net/~sgjoen/The_LDP_HOWTO_Generator.html
> 
nice try.

however I couldn't compile (mozilla 1.4, linux)

I think also there should be a subtitle generator, the one given from 
parts 3 or 4 are not always relevants.

but this is a good thing.

may be such form could be use to submitt the first draft of a new HOWTO.

you know: most new authors use to write to the list to ask if creating 
this HOWTO is a good thing, filling the form could give very fast an 
idea of the author's will.

jdd

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jdd wrote:

> Stein Gjoen wrote:
> 
>> Strange. Try on my home page, should be at
>>     http://www.nyx.net/~sgjoen/The_LDP_HOWTO_Generator.html
>>
> nice try.


Thanks.

> however I couldn't compile (mozilla 1.4, linux)


It is just a prototype with emphasis on prototyping the user
interface. Thus there is no working javascript yet.

> I think also there should be a subtitle generator, the one given from 
> parts 3 or 4 are not always relevants.


The whole structure is straight out of the Big HOWTO Template
so yes, means of changing chapter titles should be added.

> but this is a good thing.


Thanks.

> may be such form could be use to submitt the first draft of a new HOWTO.


The idea was twofold:
  1: a simple interface to get something started on-line with TLDP
  2: a simple off-line tool to get a HOWTO started. Once compiled
    the structure of the markup should be sufficiently self evident
    for the new author to continue with a plain ascii editor.

> you know: most new authors use to write to the list to ask if creating 
> this HOWTO is a good thing, filling the form could give very fast an 
> idea of the author's will.


Moreover such a form helps in structuring the thoughts and forms
a checklist of what is useful to include.

If we get an on-line too going I feel we should keep both user
interfaces as similar as possible, preferrably identical.

Regards,
    Stein Gjoen

hi


IMHO LDP should immediately adopt this till a better
implementation is there in place.
regards
rahul 

--- Stein Gjoen ####@####.#### wrote: > jdd
wrote:
> 
> > Stein Gjoen wrote:
> > 
> >> Strange. Try on my home page, should be at
> >>    
>
http://www.nyx.net/~sgjoen/The_LDP_HOWTO_Generator.html
> >>
> > nice try.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> > however I couldn't compile (mozilla 1.4, linux)
> 
> 
> It is just a prototype with emphasis on prototyping
> the user
> interface. Thus there is no working javascript yet.
> 
> > I think also there should be a subtitle generator,
> the one given from 
> > parts 3 or 4 are not always relevants.
> 
> 
> The whole structure is straight out of the Big HOWTO
> Template
> so yes, means of changing chapter titles should be
> added.
> 
> > but this is a good thing.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> > may be such form could be use to submitt the first
> draft of a new HOWTO.
> 
> 
> The idea was twofold:
>   1: a simple interface to get something started
> on-line with TLDP
>   2: a simple off-line tool to get a HOWTO started.
> Once compiled
>     the structure of the markup should be
> sufficiently self evident
>     for the new author to continue with a plain
> ascii editor.
> 
> > you know: most new authors use to write to the
> list to ask if creating 
> > this HOWTO is a good thing, filling the form could
> give very fast an 
> > idea of the author's will.
> 
> 
> Moreover such a form helps in structuring the
> thoughts and forms
> a checklist of what is useful to include.
> 
> If we get an on-line too going I feel we should keep
> both user
> interfaces as similar as possible, preferrably
> identical.
> 
> Regards,
>     Stein Gjoen
> 
> 
> 
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:14:58 +0100 (BST)
Rahul Sundaram ####@####.#### wrote:
> IMHO LDP should immediately adopt this till a better
> implementation is there in place.

> http://www.nyx.net/~sgjoen/The_LDP_HOWTO_Generator.html

Agreed. As soon as it is functionnal it should be proeminently offered on our
site.

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