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Subject:
proposal - merge of mini-HOWTOs
From: Greg Ferguson ####@####.#### Date: 1 May 2003 22:20:07 -0000 Message-Id: <200305012219.h41MJFOu071783@hoop.timonium.sgi.com> We're strongly considering merging the mini-HOWTOs into the set of "full" HOWTOs. In general, we feel it will make it easier to navigate and find what you're looking for. The structural boundaries (directory structure, sep. tar files, etc) will be removed. Authors can still use the term "mini HOWTO" in the title of a document to denote those documents that are short and usually very specific in nature, but nothing will separate them from the "full" HOWTOs. An outline of some of the changes: * 1 master (combined) list in the HOWTO-INDEX vs. the current 2: full HOWTOs - http://tldp.org/HOWTO/ mini HOWTOS - http://tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/ * One set of tar files per document variant vs. the current 2: http://tldp.org/docs.html#howto * Combined directory structure (on ibiblio and tldp.org) Does anyone feel we should *not* do this? Let me/us know. Do you think this warrants re-direct files for those under tldp.org:/HOWTO/mini/ which will now reside in tldp.org:/HOWTO/? thanks, -- Greg Ferguson * SGI principal engr / LDP contributor SGI Tech Pubs * http://techpubs.sgi.com/ | gferg(at)sgi.com Linux Doc Project* http://tldp.org/ | gferg(at)metalab.unc.edu | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
Re: proposal - merge of mini-HOWTOs
From: Luc de Louw ####@####.#### Date: 1 May 2003 22:56:29 -0000 Message-Id: <3EB1A26F.9030406@delouw.ch> Greg Ferguson wrote: [..] > Does anyone feel we should *not* do this? Let me/us know. I strongly agree > Do you think this warrants re-direct files for those under > tldp.org:/HOWTO/mini/ which will now reside in tldp.org:/HOWTO/? I think a page which informs the users should be at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/mini.html Maybe with a auto-redirection after 10 seconds or so. I think this is important. rgds Luc | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
Re: proposal - merge of mini-HOWTOs
From: David Lawyer ####@####.#### Date: 2 May 2003 06:12:38 -0000 Message-Id: <20030502061248.GC657@lafn.org> On Thu, May 01, 2003 at 06:19:15PM -0400, Greg Ferguson wrote: > We're strongly considering merging the mini-HOWTOs into > the set of "full" HOWTOs. In general, we feel it will make > it easier to navigate and find what you're looking for. > The structural boundaries (directory structure, sep. > tar files, etc) will be removed. Authors can still use the > term "mini HOWTO" in the title of a document to denote > those documents that are short and usually very specific > in nature, but nothing will separate them from the "full" > HOWTOs. An outline of some of the changes: Well, I had proposed that plain text be allowed for mini's but this needs to be further discussed. But right now I'm in favor of putting all the HOWTOs into the same index as you propose. > > * 1 master (combined) list in the HOWTO-INDEX vs. the current 2: > full HOWTOs - http://tldp.org/HOWTO/ > mini HOWTOS - http://tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/ > > * One set of tar files per document variant vs. the current 2: > http://tldp.org/docs.html#howto > > * Combined directory structure (on ibiblio and tldp.org) > > Does anyone feel we should *not* do this? Let me/us know. > Do you think this warrants re-direct files for those under > tldp.org:/HOWTO/mini/ which will now reside in tldp.org:/HOWTO/? Why not keep the mini's (and the full's) in two places for awhile (and also keep the mini index)? Put a note in the mini index that it will eventually go away in a year or two. Of couse, a mini, etc. is only stored one place on the disk but it will look like it's in two places due to links. Perhaps this could be also be done for the tar files: full, mini, and combined. It shouldn't be much extra work since it involves setting up combined directories and indexes while leaving the old ones as is for awhile. This way people can get used to the new scheme while continuing to use the old if they want. David Lawyer | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
Re: proposal - merge of mini-HOWTOs
From: jdd ####@####.#### Date: 2 May 2003 06:55:34 -0000 Message-Id: <3EB21664.2080709@dodin.net> Greg Ferguson wrote: > We're strongly considering merging the mini-HOWTOs into a very good ideé... that was discussed and approved some years ago if I remember, but never done. of course, no need to change real place of the files, a new index is perfectly nice. jdd -- <http://www.dodin.net> Formation Linux débutants open | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
Re: proposal - merge of mini-HOWTOs
From: Gilles LAMIRAL ####@####.#### Date: 2 May 2003 22:52:11 -0000 Message-Id: <3EB2F6B1.E1AB3AE6@free.fr> Hello, > We're strongly considering merging the mini-HOWTOs into > the set of "full" HOWTOs. Never too late. It seemed LDP admins had never try to search on a topic in the repositery like a newbie :-) -- Au revoir, 33 (0) 2 99 78 62 49 Gilles Lamiral. France, L'Hermitage (35590) 33 (0) 6 20 79 76 06 http://www.sri.ucl.ac.be/SRI/frfc/rfc1855.fr.html | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
re: proposal - merge of mini-HOWTOs
From: Greg Ferguson ####@####.#### Date: 24 Jul 2003 18:21:57 -0000 Message-Id: <200307241818.h6OII07D009787@hoop.timonium.sgi.com> > We're strongly considering merging the mini-HOWTOs into > the set of "full" HOWTOs. In general, we feel it will make > it easier to navigate and find what you're looking for. > The structural boundaries (directory structure, sep. > tar files, etc) will be removed. Authors can still use the > term "mini HOWTO" in the title of a document to denote > those documents that are short and usually very specific > in nature, but nothing will separate them from the "full" > HOWTOs. An outline of some of the changes: > > * 1 master (combined) list in the HOWTO-INDEX vs. the current 2: > full HOWTOs - http://tldp.org/HOWTO/ > mini HOWTOS - http://tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/ > > * One set of tar files per document variant vs. the current 2: > http://tldp.org/docs.html#howto > > * Combined directory structure (on ibiblio and tldp.org) FYI; this has been done. (Only) top-level redirect (index.html, <mini-HOWTO>.html) files have been placed in the "mini" directory for all docs that have been moved. The 404 message has also been tailored. -- Greg | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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