discuss: Re: [announce] updates (Bash-Beginners-Guide)
Subject:
Re: [announce] updates (Bash-Beginners-Guide)
From:
"Fran Litterio" ####@####.####
Date:
18 Mar 2006 15:05:54 -0000
Message-Id: <a5b589a70603180705h30bad559o4a824501384f1a5c@mail.gmail.com>
I agree that the "Bash Scripting Introduction HOWTO" still has a
place. If we make it focus on teaching the reader how to write Bash
scripts quickly, then we will be doing something that the the "Bash
Guide for Beginners" doesn't do. Maybe our HOWTO should actually be
called something like the "Bash Scripting Quick Start HOWTO" (I'm sure
there are better names than that). But you get the idea -- a name that
emphasises the focus on learning to write scripts quickly.
To answer Randy Kramer's question (posed in a posting to
####@####.#### Yes, I think both documents are intended to be
tutorials/learning tools, so there may be value in having two
different explainations of similar concepts.
--
Fran Litterio
On 3/15/06, Rohit Patil wrote:
> Fran, From a first glance at Machtelt's document (nice one too!), I
> think we can still use the "Bash Scripting Introduction HOWTO" which
> is to the point and gets a user-in-a-hurry going really quick. That's
> the impression I got when I first saw it. It's a really fast intro. to
> Bash scripting, and I have wanted documents like that when I wanted to
> get something done by yesterday :) The "Bash Guide for Beginners" can
> serve as a more detailed introductory version.
>
> Machtelt, Thanks for another nice doc! I'll check it out after we're
> done with the the "Bash Scripting Introduction HOWTO", depending on
> which we everyone decides to go.
>
> -Rohit.
>
> On 3/15/06, Fran Litterio wrote:
> > Greg Ferguson wrote:
> >
> > > Bash Guide for Beginners
> > > Machtelt Garrels
> > > v1.8 Mar 2006
> > > http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
> >
> > Greg and Machtelt,
> >
> > With the above announcement, I just became aware of the "Bash Guide
> > for Beginners". Unfortunately, there is significant overlap between
> > the content of the "Bash Guide for Beginners" and the (not yet
> > published) "Bash Scripting Introduction HOWTO" that I'm working on
> > with Rohit Patil -- a draft of which can be found at:
> >
> > http://world.std.com/~franl/draft-bash-scripting-intro-howto.html
> >
> > I'm not sure how to proceed. The "Bash Guide for Beginners" does two
> > things that my HOWTO also attempts to do:
> >
> > 1. Target first-time users of Bash.
> > 2. Describe how to write shell scripts.
> >
> > I need editorial advice here. Is there room for _two_ introductory
> > documents on Bash that both describe variables, if-statements, loops,
> > etc.?
> >
> > If so, how should the "Bash Scripting Introduction HOWTO" distinguish
> > itself from the "Bash Guide for Beginners" in the areas where the
> > subject matter overlaps? There is already an "Advanced Bash-Scripting
> > Guide" that is very mature, so adding advanced material to my HOWTO
> > does not seem wise.
> >
> > If not, is there a chance we can merge some of my HOWTO into the "Bash
> > Guide for Beginnners"? Clearly, there are other HOWTOs I can work on,
> > if the current one is a duplication of effort.
> > --
> > Fran Litterio
