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Subject: Re: [discuss] August summary
From: Randy Kramer ####@####.####
Date: 13 Oct 2005 14:40:40 -0000
Message-Id: <200510131040.09065.rhkramer@gmail.com>

On Wednesday 12 October 2005 08:54 pm, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> >Again, we can put a wiki directly on ibilio (our host). Based on
> >what I've seen/read over the last few months, I'm no longer convinced
> >a wiki is the appropriate solution for LDP (I guess that's why
> >I stopped persuing installing one on our host).
> >
> >Greg
>
> Can you continue your prodding the host and get the wiki installed.
> Atleast it would be provide a opportunity for the wiki favoring people
> to play with it and try to convince LDP that its a potentially good way.
> This discussion is otherwise going in circles.

I'd be hesitant about prodding the host (ibiblio(sp?)) to install a wiki 
until:
   * there is some agreement on which wiki
   * there is somebody willing to put the document on the wiki
   * there is a document chosen for the purpose

There is no sense "prodding" anyone if there is not some certitude about 
subsequent followup.

Also, I'm not sure, would ibiblio actually install the wiki or simply give us 
(someone) the necessary permissions and so forth to install it ourselves.

Although I don't know when I'd have the knowledge or time to do it, my 
preference would be TWiki.  I know that:
   * a new release of TWiki is imminent (sp?)
   * TWiki has a fair number of dependencies--I don't know all of them, but 
they include perl (and, ideally mod-perl for speed, but there is a potential 
complication, at least in older versions of TWiki only one could exist on a 
single virtual host (because TWiki used global variables for too many (and 
the wrong) things--I believe that has been fixed, or will be with the 
imminent release).  Also, TWiki needs a web server (most commonly, ime, 
Apache (and, last time I knew, there were some problems / concerns about 
Apache2).  TWiki also needs some CPAN modules.
   * TWiki is easier to install with root access.  It can (almost) be done 
without root access, but I believe at least sudo is required for some parts 
of the job (or some parts will have to be written up as tasks to be done by 
the ibiblio administrator (iirc, setting permissions on certain files, etc.).  
This is another area that I believe will be improved with the next release.

Re imminent release, I think the plan was for October (2005 ;-), but I don't 
recall a date being specified.  Maybe early November is a reasonable 
expectation.

If jdd wants to install his preferred wiki (is that MediaWiki?), I can live 
with that, but may not be as active in adding the original content (as I am 
not proficient in MediaWiki).

regards,
Randy Kramer

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