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From: Alex Nordstrom ####@####.####
Date: 11 Oct 2005 17:29:34 -0000
Message-Id: <200510120129.25216.lx@se.linux.org>

Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:42, Machtelt Garrels wrote:
> I would also suggest to translate the source and do no conversions
> during the translation process.  Even vim has very good markup
> highlighting.

That is the ideal case, but I have already had a couple of good 
translators express confusion at Linuxdoc and Docbook, and I am more 
willing to sacrifice a bit of my time than to sacrifice good volunteers 
at this stage. It is probably not the choice everyone, or even most, 
translation coordinators would make.

And what do you mean "even vim"? Vim has everything one needs! ;)

> It is also a good idea to plan the translation process and to set
> dates when things will be done.  Most likely you will pass the
> deadlines, but that is no problem :)  The dates are set so as to
> motivate people.  I've seen many translators, for instance, starting
> translation of the Intro to Linux or Bash Beginner's Guide, and while
> everybody starts with good intentions, only a minority gets through
> to the end, because they set themselves dates, like "I will translate
> this chapter by next week, and then the week after that I will
> translate the next chapter".  Make sure that you don't make these
> dates too tight, after all we are all volunteers, but not too loose,
> either.  Like "Oh, somewhere next year" is not good.

That is a good suggestion; one that I and most of the translators with 
whom I work seem to have adopted naturally. Nevertheless, it warrants 
formal mentioning.

Thank you very much for your comments!

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<type 'exceptions.IOError'>
Python 2.5.2: /usr/bin/python
Wed Jul 3 10:09:16 2024

A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred.

 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/<string> in ()
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/main.py in main()
  424 
  425         if path is not None:
  426                 main_path(path)
  427         else:
  428                 main_form()
global main_form = <function main_form at 0x9824c6c>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/main.py in main_form()
  378         except ImportError:
  379                 die(ctxt, "Invalid command")
  380         module.do(ctxt)
  381 
  382 def main():
module = <module 'commands.showmsg' from '/opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/commands/showmsg.pyc'>, module.do = <function do at 0x98265dc>, global ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 9, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/commands/showmsg.py in do(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 9, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'})
   18         write(html('msg-pager') % ctxt)
   19         write('<hr>')
   20         sub_showmsg(ctxt, ctxt[MSGNUM])
   21         write('<hr>')
   22         write(html('msg-pager') % ctxt)
global sub_showmsg = <function sub_showmsg at 0x98241ec>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 9, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, global MSGNUM = 'msgnum'
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in sub_showmsg(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 9, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, msgnum=9722)
  229         format_timestamp(ctxt, ctxt)
  230         write(html('msg-header') % ctxt)
  231         rec_showpart(ctxt, msg, 0)
  232         write(html('msg-footer') % ctxt)
  233         ctxt.pop()
global rec_showpart = <function rec_showpart at 0x98241b4>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 9, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, msg = <email.message.Message instance at 0x98825cc>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in rec_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 9, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x98825cc>, partnum=1)
  205                 else:
  206                         for p in part.get_payload():
  207                                 partnum = rec_showpart(ctxt, p, partnum+1)
  208         else:
  209                 write(html('msg-sep') % ctxt)
partnum = 1, global rec_showpart = <function rec_showpart at 0x98241b4>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 9, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, p = <email.message.Message instance at 0x98829ec>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in rec_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 9, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x98829ec>, partnum=2)
  208         else:
  209                 write(html('msg-sep') % ctxt)
  210                 sub_showpart(ctxt, part)
  211         return partnum
  212 
global sub_showpart = <function sub_showpart at 0x9824144>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 9, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part = <email.message.Message instance at 0x98829ec>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in sub_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 9, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x98829ec>)
  164         type = ctxt[TYPE] = part.get_content_type()
  165         ctxt[FILENAME] = part.get_filename()
  166         template = html('msg-' + type.replace('/', '-'))
  167         if not template:
  168                 template = html('msg-' + type[:type.find('/')])
global template = <function template at 0x981ce9c>, global html = <function html at 0x981ced4>, type = 'application/pgp-signature', type.replace = <built-in method replace of str object at 0x9881a68>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in html(name='msg-application-pgp-signature')
   40 
   41 def html(name):
   42         return template(name + '.html')
   43 
   44 def xml(name):
global template = <function template at 0x981ce9c>, name = 'msg-application-pgp-signature'
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in template(filename='msg-application-pgp-signature.html')
   31         except IOError:
   32                 if not _template_zipfile:
   33                         _template_zipfile = zipfile.ZipFile(sys.argv[0])
   34                 try:
   35                         f = _template_zipfile.open(n).read()
global _template_zipfile = None, global zipfile = <module 'zipfile' from '/usr/lib/python2.5/zipfile.pyc'>, zipfile.ZipFile = <class zipfile.ZipFile at 0x97b5a7c>, global sys = <module 'sys' (built-in)>, sys.argv = ['-c', '/opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20']
 /usr/lib/python2.5/zipfile.py in __init__(self=<zipfile.ZipFile instance at 0x9882f8c>, file='-c', mode='r', compression=0, allowZip64=False)
  337             self.filename = file
  338             modeDict = {'r' : 'rb', 'w': 'wb', 'a' : 'r+b'}
  339             self.fp = open(file, modeDict[mode])
  340         else:
  341             self._filePassed = 1
self = <zipfile.ZipFile instance at 0x9882f8c>, self.fp = None, builtin open = <built-in function open>, file = '-c', modeDict = {'a': 'r+b', 'r': 'rb', 'w': 'wb'}, mode = 'r'

<type 'exceptions.IOError'>: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '-c'
      args = (2, 'No such file or directory')
      errno = 2
      filename = '-c'
      message = ''
      strerror = 'No such file or directory'