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Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: small demo page
From: Stein Gjoen ####@####.####
Date: 14 Sep 2005 15:32:07 -0000
Message-Id: <43284214.8000107@mail.nyx.net>

folajimi wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Stein Gjoen wrote:
> 
>>I have acted. I have contributed. I spent hours on JDD's wiki.
>>Now it is all gone and JDD cannot even see anyone has contributed.
>>When all these hours I spent were a total waste of effort and my
>>time I am certainly not going to put in another major job before
>>we have got to the bottom of what happened.
> 
> Allow me to apologize for my oversight. I admit I was oblivious to your efforts
> to provide a solution to the problem. I would like to hope that it has not been
> in vain.


Accepted.

>>>Once you get started, you'll eventually see how to improve, and, even
>>>more important -- when.
>>
>>Some of us have been there and done that. Now is the time to discuss
>>how to go on from there. "When" is now.
> 
> In light of what you said earlier, I wholeheartedly agree. I am, and will
> continue to oppose any attempts to duplicate work.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> 
>>I am not just a talker; I also produce the goods. How about you?
>>I have created numerous prototypes for various things, put them
>>up for public viewing and comments. So far not much.
> 
> Could you please provide details on how one can view your work? I for one
> believe that this would be exceedingly helpful as this project moves forward.
> Who knows? In light of the conversations that have been going on for the past
> several weeks, your efforts may even be more appealing than when they was first
> conceived.


My prototypes are available at
	http://www.nyx.net/~sgjoen/tarpl.html
along with list of some updates. I had some weekly news for a
while but my current effort is requiring more work tan expected
so there is nothing visible yet.

>>I feel there is just a few of us doing real work, trying to improve
>>TLDP but since this is not a dictatorship we need feedback. A few
>>months ago there was a minor tempest in this teacup on the existence
>>of a Staff list and fears this was some kind of secret conspiracy.
>>Open discussions are therefore neccessary for the health of the
>>project and also progress. It is rather indicative that the effort
>>on describing positions remains unfinished.
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>I tend not to abuse the exclamation character on my keyboard but I am
>>getting pretty close this time.
> 
> I am truly sorry if my ignorant (perhaps inflammatory?) comments added to your
> frustration. I do not intend to come across as a blithering idiot. I just want
> to ensure that the group is not spinning its wheels, not to mention trying to
> re-invent them...

This highlights the need for communication and frequent updates; I hope
the TLDP Weekly News will reappear soon.

Regards,
    Stein Gjoen


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