discuss: Linux Model is Unix model ? So where's TLDP ?
Subject:
Re: Linux Model is Unix model ? So where's TLDP ?
From:
Stein Gjoen ####@####.####
Date:
4 Mar 2005 23:16:59 -0000
Message-Id: <4228ED85.4030503@mail.nyx.net>
Mathieu Deschamps wrote:
>
> Robert Francis ####@####.#### wrote:
>
> A good reply I thought, although a bit involved, and breaking the very
> rules stated in the body of the email. If you really want to produce
> something which would allow newbies to find their own level, and pick up
> knowledge and skills in their town time, you do not produce a massive
> documentation (bureaucratic) product, which is clearly (going by the
> present discussion) difficult to produce. You produce something which is
> closer to the original Unix model.
The Unix culture is about a number of things, including diversity
as well as small simple bits that work together. TLDP provides this.
Steep learning curve:
read all the manual pages and then type
in your document in something like vi.
Intermediate learning curve:
read a Template and modify from there into
whatever document you want to create
http://www.nyx.net/~sgjoen/template.sgml
http://www.nyx.net/~sgjoen/template.html
Easy learning curve:
go to the Linux HOWTO Generator
http://www.nyx.net/~sgjoen/The_LDP_HOWTO_Generator.html
and start typing into the fields in the form
> I must be dreaming, this is actually how LDP works from what 'ive understood.
Please have a closer look at the author resources, we have
put in a lot of effort to help people getting started.
> And Yes I believe it does not prevent from knowing what my doc I'd like to share
>
> will become, the process it has to follow to get thing done.
All these methods should make it possible to write your document
the way you feel is best.
> Don't take it just for you but :
>
> Invocation of Unix model doesn't excuse being blame for ignorance of
>
> LDP process or rudefully treated, neither it means 'free' is 'freezed' into
The LDP process is itself under development, all inputs
and improvements are welcome. The biggest problem currently
is not the process as it is documented but that we do not
have sufficient resources to make everything run smoothly.
> the time. Ok that's true Tux is a bit freezed but that all.
>
> Cleariness is not a cathedral, cleariness it is the opposite
>
> of what you named under well known cies. Cleariness is
>
> not a ennemy of the bazaar, few structures doesn't mean
>
> fuzzy content.
I am not certain what you mean so I cannot respon. Could
you rephrase it?
> Elitism should not swallow Linux. That's a insane confinement
Joining TLDP requires very little other than a wish to help
and the ability to do work. I sincerely hope that is not
elitist.
> .
>
> The funniest of all, is that everybody's wondering why there's
>
> a lack of volonteer. Is that a Open Mouvement ? Tell me
Documentation has never attracted many people. TLDP has
existed for more than 10 years yet the group of active
members on this mailing list has never been huge.
Traffic on this list tends to be low volume, somehow traffic
has exploded the last few days, I cannot remember last time
it was this active.
TLDP is indeed an open movement, you are free to join and
our mailing lists are open for perusal.
> You let those who have the initiative
> a free hand to explain matters in their own way, and leave it to the
> free market to decide whether they have produced something worth while.
Theer is no money, fame or other market like benefits in
being a TLDP member so I cannot see how free market theories
apply.
> You aren't far from invocating Unix model to say new comers shall contribute and shut...
I am not sure what this mean.
Regards,
Stein Gjoen
