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Subject: Re: Volonteer lacks or(inc) TLDP on the turn ?
From: Robert Francis ####@####.####
Date: 4 Mar 2005 11:41:35 -0000
Message-Id: <4228494D.2010107@ukfsn.org>

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
> 
>  You
> 
>>produce something which is 
>>closer to the original Unix model. You let those who
>>have the initiative 
>>a free hand to explain matters in their own way, and
>>leave it to the 
>>free market to decide whether they have produced
>>something worth while.
> 
> 
> thats a pretty bad description of the "unix model"
> 
The Unix model is basically simple, not Swiss knife complicated. What 
you are doing is Swiss knife complicated. Read Harley Hahn writing ten 
of so years ago. Possibly Linux is monolithic, unlike the Hurd, and that 
influences the way you think. Bazaar is better than the cathedral. That 
is why we Brits hate the present European Union, and much prefer to 
change it into something closer to the bazaar model. Catholic Europe 
does not like that. It is in the presuppositions by which people do 
things that is different. Examine that aspect!
> 
> 
>>I subscribed to this discussion group (and have
>>failed to get out) in 
>>order to find out whether what you are doing would
>>be a good model in 
>>other areas. I am afraid it is not. I get the
>>impression that somebody 
>>in Microsoft suggested the project as another means
>>of preventing Linux 
>>from replacing MS Windows.
> 
> 
> 
> ya sure. blame everything on MS and SCO. 
>
No! the fault lies with the Linux community, and how far they have 
tended to follow bad practice from the Unix community. Without Minix 
etc, it is quite possible that Unix would have eventually disappeared 
from history. I am not saying it would. Intellectual historians would 
certainly not have forgotten it. Linux came at just the right time. It 
started out hopeful, but the Linux community has simply made the same 
mistakes. The community needs to get back to basics - of the original 
genius behind the whole idea.

> 
> 
> 
>>Would not a wikipedia be a much better way of going
>>about this? You 
>>could start what 'whatis Linux' (let Linus write
>>that),
> 
> 
> you honestly believe linus is going to write that?. 
> 
If Linus is the problem, then Linux has little chance of being more than 
what it is at present. If he is willing to embrace ideas outside of his 
own community, then there is some hope of it becoming mainstream. I 
would like to see GNU/Linux become mainstream for different reasons than 
Linus may want it to be. GNU/Hurd might be even better.
> 
>>PPs. Or just unsubscribe me somebody. Enough is
>>enough!
> 
> 
> precisely.enough is enough
> 
> =====
> Regards
> Rahul Sundaram
> 
> 
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