discuss: LDP Licence at http://tldp.org/COPYRIGHT.html, and changing in-place
Subject:
Re: LDP Licence at http://tldp.org/COPYRIGHT.html, and changing
in-place
From:
Guylhem Aznar ####@####.####
Date:
25 Jan 2004 22:03:59 -0000
Message-Id: <20040120081730.6a0a722d.athome@externe.net>
Hello,
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:11:24 -0800
Rick Moen ####@####.#### wrote:
> > Whabout about creating a separate "history" page in the copyright section?
>
> I'm not sure I understand this question. Sorry.
COPYRIGHT.html would contain our default/agreed/basic/whatever license, with a
link at the beginning to the past versions and a proeminent warning "Previous
versions for historic purposes only"
> Huh? I'm afraid that, once more, I do not follow.
Keeping too many licenses impers interoperability - if only because of the
number of licenses to choose from
> It is unclear to me in what regard these are "problems" in any respect
> that particularly concerns LDP.
Take some old interesting document with an uncommon license, banning the
document from Debian for ex. - this is a problem since it can't be updated and
removing it won't be easy if most people like it.
It's a causing more problems to TLDP because unlike software the BSD and GPL are
not the most common licenses : much more restrictive licenses are preferred.
> It is likewise unclear to me why you would wish to "agree on a common
> licence", and unclear to me what would be achieved by doing so. (I hope
We would in one step fix license-boud problems such as :
- new authors updating old documents
- merging old documents (ex: the lilo linux/nt/os2/fat/etc serie)
- having our documents included in distributions where licensing issues matters
I'm sorry that you don't see these problems and how they affect TLDP.
> you are aware that "relicensing" is something possible only to copyright
> holders, in any event.)
I do - I think the author could possibly agree to a contract which would cause
his document to be relicensed on some event (ex: can't be reached for 6 months)
and passed to a new authors following some criterias (ex: new title, old author
name indicated in a table of former authors). Another possibility is to ask
authors to transfer their copyright but I think we shouldn't do that until a
board with clear rules exist.
> > This would ensure interoperability.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by the term "interoperability". It is
> extremely rare for a dervative work of documentation to be created using
> material from two upstream original documents, let alone two such
> documents under incompatible licence terms without the opportunity to
> secure licence-exception permission from the copyright owners.
The only reason why it's rare is exactly the license problems. And even in you
consider it's just a minor factor, why don't you want to fix it?
For ex, 2 of my documents where created upon an existing basis (Mail & UUCP
HOWTO) which was then split (Mail Administrator / Mail User HOWTO) etc. What if
in the future we want to integrate different documents in a printed book? Or
simply in one big online guide covering everything from email to system security
? What if some chapters on new email subsystems are to be added and my document
can't be included in Debian because of my past license choice GFDL?
Best regards,
Guylhem
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<type 'exceptions.IOError'> | Python 2.5.2: /usr/bin/python
Fri Jul 5 09:15:49 2024 |
A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of
function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred.
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/main.py in main() |
424
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425 if path is not None:
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426 main_path(path)
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427 else:
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428 main_form()
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| global main_form = <function main_form at 0x9bb0c6c> |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/main.py in main_form() |
378 except ImportError:
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379 die(ctxt, "Invalid command")
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380 module.do(ctxt)
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381
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382 def main():
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| module = <module 'commands.showmsg' from '/opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/commands/showmsg.pyc'>, module.do = <function do at 0x9c16a74>, global ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 54, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'} |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/commands/showmsg.py in do(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 54, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}) |
18 write(html('msg-pager') % ctxt)
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19 write('<hr>')
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20 sub_showmsg(ctxt, ctxt[MSGNUM])
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21 write('<hr>')
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22 write(html('msg-pager') % ctxt)
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| global sub_showmsg = <function sub_showmsg at 0x9bb01ec>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 54, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, global MSGNUM = 'msgnum' |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in sub_showmsg(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 54, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, msgnum=6550) |
229 format_timestamp(ctxt, ctxt)
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230 write(html('msg-header') % ctxt)
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231 rec_showpart(ctxt, msg, 0)
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232 write(html('msg-footer') % ctxt)
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233 ctxt.pop()
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| global rec_showpart = <function rec_showpart at 0x9bb01b4>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 54, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, msg = <email.message.Message instance at 0x9c2ffcc> |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in rec_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 54, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x9c2ffcc>, partnum=1) |
205 else:
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206 for p in part.get_payload():
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207 partnum = rec_showpart(ctxt, p, partnum+1)
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208 else:
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209 write(html('msg-sep') % ctxt)
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| partnum = 1, global rec_showpart = <function rec_showpart at 0x9bb01b4>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 54, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, p = <email.message.Message instance at 0x9c3410c> |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in rec_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 54, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x9c3410c>, partnum=2) |
208 else:
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209 write(html('msg-sep') % ctxt)
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210 sub_showpart(ctxt, part)
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211 return partnum
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212
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| global sub_showpart = <function sub_showpart at 0x9bb0144>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 54, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part = <email.message.Message instance at 0x9c3410c> |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in sub_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 54, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x9c3410c>) |
164 type = ctxt[TYPE] = part.get_content_type()
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165 ctxt[FILENAME] = part.get_filename()
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166 template = html('msg-' + type.replace('/', '-'))
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167 if not template:
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168 template = html('msg-' + type[:type.find('/')])
|
| global template = <function template at 0x9ba8e9c>, global html = <function html at 0x9ba8ed4>, type = 'application/pgp-signature', type.replace = <built-in method replace of str object at 0x9c37170> |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in html(name='msg-application-pgp-signature') |
40
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41 def html(name):
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42 return template(name + '.html')
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43
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44 def xml(name):
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| global template = <function template at 0x9ba8e9c>, name = 'msg-application-pgp-signature' |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in template(filename='msg-application-pgp-signature.html') |
31 except IOError:
|
32 if not _template_zipfile:
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33 _template_zipfile = zipfile.ZipFile(sys.argv[0])
|
34 try:
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35 f = _template_zipfile.open(n).read()
|
| global _template_zipfile = None, global zipfile = <module 'zipfile' from '/usr/lib/python2.5/zipfile.pyc'>, zipfile.ZipFile = <class zipfile.ZipFile at 0x9b41a7c>, global sys = <module 'sys' (built-in)>, sys.argv = ['-c', '/opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20'] |
| /usr/lib/python2.5/zipfile.py in __init__(self=<zipfile.ZipFile instance at 0x9bbd50c>, file='-c', mode='r', compression=0, allowZip64=False) |
337 self.filename = file
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338 modeDict = {'r' : 'rb', 'w': 'wb', 'a' : 'r+b'}
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339 self.fp = open(file, modeDict[mode])
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340 else:
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341 self._filePassed = 1
|
| self = <zipfile.ZipFile instance at 0x9bbd50c>, self.fp = None, builtin open = <built-in function open>, file = '-c', modeDict = {'a': 'r+b', 'r': 'rb', 'w': 'wb'}, mode = 'r' |
<type 'exceptions.IOError'>: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '-c'
args =
(2, 'No such file or directory')
errno =
2
filename =
'-c'
message =
''
strerror =
'No such file or directory'
