discuss: getting sponsorship and marketing LDP
Subject:
Re: getting sponsorship and marketing LDP
From:
Guylhem Aznar ####@####.####
Date:
7 Jan 2004 21:43:26 -0000
Message-Id: <20040106131016.354ea010.athome@externe.net>
Hello,
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:21:52 -0600
"Rodolfo J. Paiz" ####@####.#### wrote:
> Switching businesses because the software I need does not exist in a Free
> form is absurd... I pay for the wrench, the desk, the chair, and other
I did - I now refuse to do business related to non free software.
That's my personal choice. It can make your life harder but it's much more
rewarding.
> sundry items because that's fair: someone spent time and money in creating
> them and they desire compensation for their efforts (probably for the same
> reasons I put time and money into my business). When someone chooses to
> spend time and money programming software which does what I need, and they
> desire compensation for that, and I feel such compensation is warranted as
> a fair market value, I pay them.
As long as you use a free software license that's perfectly fine.
> And if one of them writes a HOWTO on their
> views and thoughts and ideas on using my software, should that HOWTO be
> excluded from LDP just because the software costs money?
>
> I think not.
I don't think either that a document should be excluded if the software costs
money.
But if the software is non free software, I would personally like to see the
document pulled.
> I would also note that nowhere in the
> name, the Manifesto, or any other text I can find does the LDP state that
> it sees any difference in documentation for X or Y software based on the
> licensing terms of said software. The LDP says only, and I quote:
> "The Linux Documentation Project is working on developing free, high
> quality documentation for the GNU/Linux operating system. The overall goal
> of the LDP is to collaborate in all of the issues of Linux documentation.
> [...] We hope to establish a system of documentation for Linux that will be
> easy to use and search. This includes the integration of the manual pages,
> info docs, HOWTOs, and other documents. [...] LDP's goal is to create the
> canonical set of free Linux documentation."
developping free documentation : not free as in gratis but free as in libre
for the GNU/Linux OS : that excludes non free software.
> You wrote that, or at least you were the last to revise it on 18-Dec-2000.
> Nowhere does it say "we exclude all documentation for proprietary,
> commercial, or non-Free software" or anything vaguely similar to that.
It's implicit. Anyway documentation for non free software is currently admitted.
It should be moved to a separate hierarchy IMHO but that should be a group
decision - it's not my decision or your decision.
Best regards,
Guylhem
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<type 'exceptions.IOError'> | Python 2.5.2: /usr/bin/python
Fri Jul 5 09:35:35 2024 |
A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of
function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred.
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/main.py in main() |
424
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425 if path is not None:
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426 main_path(path)
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427 else:
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428 main_form()
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| global main_form = <function main_form at 0x8cd8c6c> |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/main.py in main_form() |
378 except ImportError:
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379 die(ctxt, "Invalid command")
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380 module.do(ctxt)
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381
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382 def main():
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| module = <module 'commands.showmsg' from '/opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/commands/showmsg.pyc'>, module.do = <function do at 0x8d50374>, global ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 48, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'} |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/commands/showmsg.py in do(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 48, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}) |
18 write(html('msg-pager') % ctxt)
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19 write('<hr>')
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20 sub_showmsg(ctxt, ctxt[MSGNUM])
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21 write('<hr>')
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22 write(html('msg-pager') % ctxt)
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| global sub_showmsg = <function sub_showmsg at 0x8cd81ec>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 48, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, global MSGNUM = 'msgnum' |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in sub_showmsg(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 48, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, msgnum=6390) |
229 format_timestamp(ctxt, ctxt)
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230 write(html('msg-header') % ctxt)
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231 rec_showpart(ctxt, msg, 0)
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232 write(html('msg-footer') % ctxt)
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233 ctxt.pop()
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| global rec_showpart = <function rec_showpart at 0x8cd81b4>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 48, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, msg = <email.message.Message instance at 0x8d699cc> |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in rec_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 48, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x8d699cc>, partnum=1) |
205 else:
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206 for p in part.get_payload():
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207 partnum = rec_showpart(ctxt, p, partnum+1)
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208 else:
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209 write(html('msg-sep') % ctxt)
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| partnum = 1, global rec_showpart = <function rec_showpart at 0x8cd81b4>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 48, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, p = <email.message.Message instance at 0x8d69a8c> |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in rec_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 48, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x8d69a8c>, partnum=2) |
208 else:
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209 write(html('msg-sep') % ctxt)
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210 sub_showpart(ctxt, part)
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211 return partnum
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212
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| global sub_showpart = <function sub_showpart at 0x8cd8144>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 48, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part = <email.message.Message instance at 0x8d69a8c> |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in sub_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 48, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x8d69a8c>) |
164 type = ctxt[TYPE] = part.get_content_type()
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165 ctxt[FILENAME] = part.get_filename()
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166 template = html('msg-' + type.replace('/', '-'))
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167 if not template:
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168 template = html('msg-' + type[:type.find('/')])
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| global template = <function template at 0x8cd0e9c>, global html = <function html at 0x8cd0ed4>, type = 'application/pgp-signature', type.replace = <built-in method replace of str object at 0x8d6f838> |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in html(name='msg-application-pgp-signature') |
40
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41 def html(name):
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42 return template(name + '.html')
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43
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44 def xml(name):
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| global template = <function template at 0x8cd0e9c>, name = 'msg-application-pgp-signature' |
| /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in template(filename='msg-application-pgp-signature.html') |
31 except IOError:
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32 if not _template_zipfile:
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33 _template_zipfile = zipfile.ZipFile(sys.argv[0])
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34 try:
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35 f = _template_zipfile.open(n).read()
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| global _template_zipfile = None, global zipfile = <module 'zipfile' from '/usr/lib/python2.5/zipfile.pyc'>, zipfile.ZipFile = <class zipfile.ZipFile at 0x8c69a7c>, global sys = <module 'sys' (built-in)>, sys.argv = ['-c', '/opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20'] |
| /usr/lib/python2.5/zipfile.py in __init__(self=<zipfile.ZipFile instance at 0x8ce6ecc>, file='-c', mode='r', compression=0, allowZip64=False) |
337 self.filename = file
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338 modeDict = {'r' : 'rb', 'w': 'wb', 'a' : 'r+b'}
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339 self.fp = open(file, modeDict[mode])
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340 else:
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341 self._filePassed = 1
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| self = <zipfile.ZipFile instance at 0x8ce6ecc>, self.fp = None, builtin open = <built-in function open>, file = '-c', modeDict = {'a': 'r+b', 'r': 'rb', 'w': 'wb'}, mode = 'r' |
<type 'exceptions.IOError'>: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '-c'
args =
(2, 'No such file or directory')
errno =
2
filename =
'-c'
message =
''
strerror =
'No such file or directory'
