discuss: Re: Review needed of 'Encourage Women in Linux' HOWTO(OT)
Subject:
Re: Review needed of 'Encourage Women in Linux' HOWTO(OT)
From:
rahul ####@####.####
Date:
10 Dec 2003 04:58:10 -0000
Message-Id: <3FD6A909.10900@yahoo.co.in>
Jutta Wrage wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:14:30 +0530
>rahul ####@####.#### wrote:
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>>get your female
>>friends out there to the LUG's with you.
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>That is exactly what we want to do. But Those men, complaining that there are not may women, are forced to help making this possible.
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>Does anybody out here think: Things can be changed only by woman? This would lead to the consequence, that women have to be conform. They will have to laugh at all, if men make jokes against female, they even have to fetch coffee for those thinking they are a servant?
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No. Tell them you dont enjoy jokes and you are *not* there for fetching
coffee. BTW I have served coffee in a lug.
>If not, a men obviously have to do something, too. More than complaining: There aren't enough women in Linux community.
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>I am seriously tired of "you women must".
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Well. I am not saying you women must but suggesting a few things.
>I am working with mostly male colleagues since nearly 30 years as a technician. And you may believe or not. It is a really hard stand for some women (sometimes for me at all). I never gave up, but others did, some nearly broken. And I can feel with them. Moving the HOWTO out of the way is like trying to move the women as the original problem out of the way.
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I can understand that but does the howto help reduce the problem?
Is there ways we can improve it?
Thats what we are talking about.
>I really want a time when the HOWTO will be a historical document. But for now. it is needed. And it is a small, very small sign.
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It is really needed. I am not arguing it should be removed but improved.
Regards
Rahul Sundaram
