discuss: Re: Review needed of 'Encourage Women in Linux' HOWTO(OT)
Subject:
Re: Review needed of 'Encourage Women in Linux' HOWTO(OT)
From:
doug jensen ####@####.####
Date:
9 Dec 2003 16:45:51 -0000
Message-Id: <20031209170359.GA538@ispwest.com>
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:22:27AM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
> At 08:43 12/9/2003, doug jensen wrote:
> >The Encourage Women HOWTO addresses real problems,
> >but it also builds a wall that shouldn't be built.
>
> Doug, how is this different from what I've been arguing? To wit: "this
> HOWTO is excellent to a point, but the breadth and depth (and in some cases
> the unfairness or inapplicability) of its sweeping generalizations detracts
> greatly from its value."
I'm sorry Rodolfo, my assumptions was that you would be able to discern
the part that was directed at you. Please, let me try again:
*** Rodolfo, please read, this part is specifically for YOU: ***
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 07:43:46AM -0700, doug jensen wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 12:07:25AM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
> > Gee, you're tall!
> >
> > <grin>
> >
> > P.S. Agree to most/all your other points... just had to send this.
>
> No, you are wrong! You didn't "just had to send this". Mary just
> stated that she doesn't like that.
*** Rodolfo, this is the end of the specifically for YOU part ***
*** Rodolfo, this part is for all the members of the list, including
you, but it is not written to you.
> In regards to the Encourage Women HOWTO. There is really no doubt
> that the problems exist, but it suggests a micro solution to a macro
> problem.
>
> There is; women against women sexism, men against men sexism, men
> against women sexism, and women against men sexism. The HOWTO seems to
> address the last two, one in an open manner and one in a hidden manner.
> The now infamous coffee incident shouldn't even be an issue. A CEO should
> have just as much responsibility for getting the coffee as anyone else,
> using it as a power play is absurd. The Encourage Women HOWTO addresses
> real problems, but it also builds a wall that shouldn't be built.
>
> If you can't see that, you are nothing more than a rodolfool <grin>,
> gee I just had to say that *NOT*.
Please don't cc me. I am subscribed to the list.
--
Doug Jensen
