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Subject: Re: TLDP DocBook pages need work - Start there!
From: David Lawyer ####@####.####
Date: 25 Nov 2003 22:37:01 -0000
Message-Id: <20031125215946.GD504@lafn.org>

On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 05:23:53PM +0100, jdd wrote:
> preliminary:
> 
> you all, friends, could you _remove_ the multiple addresses?? (4 return 
> addresses on this mail!) before sending? thanks. return to the list is 
> enough
> 
> 
> Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
> 
> >On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 01:51:16PM -0500, John R. Daily wrote:
> > > What is the functional difference between LinuxDoc and a
> > > comparable subset of DocBook tags[1] with a well-defined toolchain?
> >
> >That question has not been answered. Personally, I like DocBook as being 
> >more flexible and more scalable (things that come along with the 
> 
> this discussion is a long story. I can answer part of it because I was 
> involved.
> 
> long ago, I become a writer for the ldp and learned linuxdoc. I even 
> wrote a small guide to sgml (for my own use). It took me an afternoon to 
> do so.
> 
> LyX was pretty well able to cope with linuxdoc so there was a handy 
> alternative to vi, but linuxdoc is so simple vi was not really a probl?m 
> (in fact it's only a problem in french 'cause of accented characters)
> 
> it was pretty difficult then to set up the _backends_ (sgml2xx),but it 
> was manageable, and the result as well html as printed was very pretty.
> 
> two things where difficult with linuxdoc:
	     were
> 
> * inclusion of images (figures)
Here's how you're supposed to do it in linuxdoc:

<figure>
<img src="logo.png">
<caption>The Penguin Logo of the Linux</caption>
</figure>

> * inclusion of tables
There's a way to do this too in linuxdoc, but I don't use it.

> however, on small docs, given the necessity of keeping a full text 
> version possible, we could live with.
> 
> the only benefit from docbook is so the possibility of including the two 
> lacking elements.

In linuxdoc these elements may not be rendered too well in text format.
But since I haven't used them yet, I don't really know.  Perhaps one
shouldn't use images at all since they can't exist in the text format.
For tables in linuxdoc, I just use typewriter fonts with a verbatim
(<verb>) tag.  It's a lot simpler than creating a table that will
translate into an html table.  Such verbatim tables of course appear in
html under the <pre> tag but are not as fancy.

> but the drawback is very hard writing - I never could put my hand on a 
> usefull docbook writer (and I tried many). given that most HOWTO authors 
> use docbook once a year... prett hard for a learning curve.
> 
> jdd
> 
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