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Subject: Copyrights with no notice
From: Charles Curley ####@####.####
Date: 19 Jun 2003 22:25:55 -0000
Message-Id: <20030619224153.GB6374@charlescurley.com>

On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 01:47:21PM -0700, Tabatha Marshall wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 19:12, Gerardo Arnaez wrote:
> > Hi all, the new how-to Ive written relys extensively
> > on some one else web page, and I provded comments and
> > modifications to it.  if that web page dissapears, my
> > how to makes no sense.  Should I copy that page and
> > make it an appendix?  I have tried to contact the
> > author but have not recieved a reply.
> 
> You are infringing on someone's rights by using their material without
> their permission.  It sounds like you're referring to information on a
> web site rather than in another person's "document" (defined as having a
> copyright and license such as the GFDL or equivalent).
> 
> I believe that even if a web site doesn't show a copyright, it is still
> the property of its owner.  If I'm wrong, I hope someone will correct
> me.

Under US law, that is correct. A document (regardless of medium) is
considered copyrighted even if no explicit notice is included.

I conjecture that that is also true under British and most
Commonwealth law as well.

At one time, US law required a notice. When Houghton Mifflin first
published Lord Of the Rings in the US, they did not add a copyright
notice (none being required by UK law). Someone at Ace noticed this,
and Ace rushed an unauthorized paperback edition into print. Tolkien
was not amused. That is the origin of the famous notice on the back of
the Ballantine paperback edition of LOtR. My hardbound revised
2nd. Ed. has a copyright notice.

Even absent an implicit copyright such as US law provides, it is
simple courtesy to fellow writers to ask first.

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<type 'exceptions.IOError'>
Python 2.5.2: /usr/bin/python
Sat Jul 6 04:21:03 2024

A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred.

 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/<string> in ()
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/main.py in main()
  424 
  425         if path is not None:
  426                 main_path(path)
  427         else:
  428                 main_form()
global main_form = <function main_form at 0x896ac6c>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/main.py in main_form()
  378         except ImportError:
  379                 die(ctxt, "Invalid command")
  380         module.do(ctxt)
  381 
  382 def main():
module = <module 'commands.showmsg' from '/opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/commands/showmsg.pyc'>, module.do = <function do at 0x89737d4>, global ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 0, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/commands/showmsg.py in do(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 0, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'})
   18         write(html('msg-pager') % ctxt)
   19         write('<hr>')
   20         sub_showmsg(ctxt, ctxt[MSGNUM])
   21         write('<hr>')
   22         write(html('msg-pager') % ctxt)
global sub_showmsg = <function sub_showmsg at 0x896a1ec>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 0, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, global MSGNUM = 'msgnum'
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in sub_showmsg(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 0, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, msgnum=4622)
  229         format_timestamp(ctxt, ctxt)
  230         write(html('msg-header') % ctxt)
  231         rec_showpart(ctxt, msg, 0)
  232         write(html('msg-footer') % ctxt)
  233         ctxt.pop()
global rec_showpart = <function rec_showpart at 0x896a1b4>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 0, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, msg = <email.message.Message instance at 0x89c8cac>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in rec_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 0, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x89c8cac>, partnum=1)
  205                 else:
  206                         for p in part.get_payload():
  207                                 partnum = rec_showpart(ctxt, p, partnum+1)
  208         else:
  209                 write(html('msg-sep') % ctxt)
partnum = 1, global rec_showpart = <function rec_showpart at 0x896a1b4>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 0, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, p = <email.message.Message instance at 0x89c8d2c>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in rec_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 0, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x89c8d2c>, partnum=2)
  208         else:
  209                 write(html('msg-sep') % ctxt)
  210                 sub_showpart(ctxt, part)
  211         return partnum
  212 
global sub_showpart = <function sub_showpart at 0x896a144>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 0, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part = <email.message.Message instance at 0x89c8d2c>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in sub_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 0, 'HTTP_X_FORWA...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x89c8d2c>)
  164         type = ctxt[TYPE] = part.get_content_type()
  165         ctxt[FILENAME] = part.get_filename()
  166         template = html('msg-' + type.replace('/', '-'))
  167         if not template:
  168                 template = html('msg-' + type[:type.find('/')])
global template = <function template at 0x8962e9c>, global html = <function html at 0x8962ed4>, type = 'application/pgp-signature', type.replace = <built-in method replace of str object at 0x89cdd40>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in html(name='msg-application-pgp-signature')
   40 
   41 def html(name):
   42         return template(name + '.html')
   43 
   44 def xml(name):
global template = <function template at 0x8962e9c>, name = 'msg-application-pgp-signature'
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in template(filename='msg-application-pgp-signature.html')
   31         except IOError:
   32                 if not _template_zipfile:
   33                         _template_zipfile = zipfile.ZipFile(sys.argv[0])
   34                 try:
   35                         f = _template_zipfile.open(n).read()
global _template_zipfile = None, global zipfile = <module 'zipfile' from '/usr/lib/python2.5/zipfile.pyc'>, zipfile.ZipFile = <class zipfile.ZipFile at 0x88fba7c>, global sys = <module 'sys' (built-in)>, sys.argv = ['-c', '/opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20']
 /usr/lib/python2.5/zipfile.py in __init__(self=<zipfile.ZipFile instance at 0x89c8dec>, file='-c', mode='r', compression=0, allowZip64=False)
  337             self.filename = file
  338             modeDict = {'r' : 'rb', 'w': 'wb', 'a' : 'r+b'}
  339             self.fp = open(file, modeDict[mode])
  340         else:
  341             self._filePassed = 1
self = <zipfile.ZipFile instance at 0x89c8dec>, self.fp = None, builtin open = <built-in function open>, file = '-c', modeDict = {'a': 'r+b', 'r': 'rb', 'w': 'wb'}, mode = 'r'

<type 'exceptions.IOError'>: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '-c'
      args = (2, 'No such file or directory')
      errno = 2
      filename = '-c'
      message = ''
      strerror = 'No such file or directory'