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Subject: Re: [tbm@cyrius.com: Contacting mirrors with old HOWTOs?]
From: Tabatha Persad ####@####.####
Date: 11 Jan 2003 03:00:01 -0000
Message-Id: <1042254246.10199.38.camel@mysticchild.dbsoftware.com>

I believe there is something in place with the old LDP domain so that if
a user clicks on a link to an old LDP document, they receive a message
at the top indicating such.  Perhaps this solution could be proposed to
mirrors.

Tab

On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 18:35, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 10:41:20AM -0800, David Lawyer wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 11:45:51AM +0000, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > > I used to maintain the Linux Consultants HOWTO (among other stuff).
> > > I gave it away in 1998 or so.  Yet, when you google for
> > > "Linux Consultants HOWTO" "Martin Michlmayr" you will get _many_ hits.
> > > I remember when Greg was the coordinator of the LDP, he wanted to
> > > contact the sites which carry outdated HOWTOs and ask them to update
> > > or remove them.  I think this never happened, however.  Are there any
> > > plans to get this old cruft which is still on many mirrors purged?
> > 
> > I looked into this in Jan.-Mar. 2001 for my Modem-HOWTO.  David Merrill
> > even wrote it up for the LWN.  I found several hundred sites that had stale
> > docs.  It would be quite a project to try to fix this, and many would
> > likely not respond or never get emails sent to them.  Even ones that
> > responded, might not bother to fix the problem.  I came up with the
> > suggestion that licenses prohibit distributing stale copies unless they
> > are clearly labelled as such.
> 
> That cure is blatantly non-free (consider the person who runs an old
> system with similarly old versions of the HOWTOs installed and happens
> to export /usr/share/doc via HTTP, or for that matter the Debian
> archive) and far worse than the disease. I rather doubt that Martin is
> interested in *suing* anyone - just wondering if anyone is looking into
> giving mirror sites a nudge.
> 
> Cheers,
-- 
Tabatha Persad
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