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Subject: Re: Fwd: Beginning of outline for policies
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Date: 25 May 2002 00:41:19 -0000
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On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 07:31:00AM +0200, jdd wrote:
> Le Mercredi 22 Mai 2002 06:05, ####@####.#### a écrit :
> 
> >Er, then what are you doing here?
> 
> I read less and and less directly from the cd's, but google find
> very often ldp howtos, and finally I write for ldp, so I think I can
> give my opinion.

Thanks. I had misunderstood from your comment that you didn't use LDP
documents much, hence my question. Also, I apologize if it came across
as hostile. I did not intend it to be hostile.


> 
> I think your arguments may be good for a make like HP, but not at
> all for ldp.
> 
> I once was a member of a writer workshop. nobody was allowed to
> review a text that did not write one.

I see. I have also been in writers workshops. I think the reason for
that is so that folks who want to do the fun stuff, like critique, can
only do so if they've also done the hard stuff, like write and put it
up there for the group to comment upon. Since we aren't a writers
workshop, and we don't have that problem, I think that that particular
reason for disallowing non-writing reviewers does not apply.

Also, amny people who are techinally knowledgable can't write worth a
fig; we would be depriving ourselves of an excellent source of
technical knowledge if we excluded them from reviewing.

> 
> syntax and spell checking are good thing but should never prevent a
> good text from being published fast.

I disagree. Bad spelling and grammer get in the way of communication,
and so do a disservice to the reader. I do not expect a document to be
error-free before publication, but some sort of checking and editing
are, I think, in order.

> 
> many HOWTO are so scope limited that nobody except the author knows
> the technicals about it.
> 
> the truth is that ldp can be a mass media or an elitist one. I think
> it must be the mass one.

If you mean mass vs. elitist audience, I agree. That is why I want to
see quality documentation. 


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 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/<string> in ()
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/main.py in main()
  424 
  425         if path is not None:
  426                 main_path(path)
  427         else:
  428                 main_form()
global main_form = <function main_form at 0x9decc6c>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/main.py in main_form()
  378         except ImportError:
  379                 die(ctxt, "Invalid command")
  380         module.do(ctxt)
  381 
  382 def main():
module = <module 'commands.showmsg' from '/opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/commands/showmsg.pyc'>, module.do = <function do at 0x9e49224>, global ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 40, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/commands/showmsg.py in do(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 40, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'})
   18         write(html('msg-pager') % ctxt)
   19         write('<hr>')
   20         sub_showmsg(ctxt, ctxt[MSGNUM])
   21         write('<hr>')
   22         write(html('msg-pager') % ctxt)
global sub_showmsg = <function sub_showmsg at 0x9dec1ec>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 40, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, global MSGNUM = 'msgnum'
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in sub_showmsg(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 40, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, msgnum=3184)
  229         format_timestamp(ctxt, ctxt)
  230         write(html('msg-header') % ctxt)
  231         rec_showpart(ctxt, msg, 0)
  232         write(html('msg-footer') % ctxt)
  233         ctxt.pop()
global rec_showpart = <function rec_showpart at 0x9dec1b4>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 40, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, msg = <email.message.Message instance at 0x9e64e8c>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in rec_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 40, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x9e64e8c>, partnum=1)
  205                 else:
  206                         for p in part.get_payload():
  207                                 partnum = rec_showpart(ctxt, p, partnum+1)
  208         else:
  209                 write(html('msg-sep') % ctxt)
partnum = 1, global rec_showpart = <function rec_showpart at 0x9dec1b4>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 40, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, p = <email.message.Message instance at 0x9e6b0ac>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in rec_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 40, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x9e6b0ac>, partnum=2)
  208         else:
  209                 write(html('msg-sep') % ctxt)
  210                 sub_showpart(ctxt, part)
  211         return partnum
  212 
global sub_showpart = <function sub_showpart at 0x9dec144>, ctxt = {'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 40, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part = <email.message.Message instance at 0x9e6b0ac>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in sub_showpart(ctxt={'cmd': 'showmsg', 'threadidx': 40, 'HTTP_X_FORW...HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING': 'gzip, br, zstd, deflate'}, part=<email.message.Message instance at 0x9e6b0ac>)
  164         type = ctxt[TYPE] = part.get_content_type()
  165         ctxt[FILENAME] = part.get_filename()
  166         template = html('msg-' + type.replace('/', '-'))
  167         if not template:
  168                 template = html('msg-' + type[:type.find('/')])
global template = <function template at 0x9de4e9c>, global html = <function html at 0x9de4ed4>, type = 'application/pgp-signature', type.replace = <built-in method replace of str object at 0x9e698a8>
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in html(name='msg-application-pgp-signature')
   40 
   41 def html(name):
   42         return template(name + '.html')
   43 
   44 def xml(name):
global template = <function template at 0x9de4e9c>, name = 'msg-application-pgp-signature'
 /opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20/globalfns.py in template(filename='msg-application-pgp-signature.html')
   31         except IOError:
   32                 if not _template_zipfile:
   33                         _template_zipfile = zipfile.ZipFile(sys.argv[0])
   34                 try:
   35                         f = _template_zipfile.open(n).read()
global _template_zipfile = None, global zipfile = <module 'zipfile' from '/usr/lib/python2.5/zipfile.pyc'>, zipfile.ZipFile = <class zipfile.ZipFile at 0x9d7da7c>, global sys = <module 'sys' (built-in)>, sys.argv = ['-c', '/opt/ezmlm-browse-0.20']
 /usr/lib/python2.5/zipfile.py in __init__(self=<zipfile.ZipFile instance at 0x9df73ac>, file='-c', mode='r', compression=0, allowZip64=False)
  337             self.filename = file
  338             modeDict = {'r' : 'rb', 'w': 'wb', 'a' : 'r+b'}
  339             self.fp = open(file, modeDict[mode])
  340         else:
  341             self._filePassed = 1
self = <zipfile.ZipFile instance at 0x9df73ac>, self.fp = None, builtin open = <built-in function open>, file = '-c', modeDict = {'a': 'r+b', 'r': 'rb', 'w': 'wb'}, mode = 'r'

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      args = (2, 'No such file or directory')
      errno = 2
      filename = '-c'
      message = ''
      strerror = 'No such file or directory'