discuss: Open Source Writers Group (OSWG) dead?


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Subject: Re: Open Source Writers Group (OSWG) dead?
From: Poet/Joshua Drake ####@####.####
Date: 27 Aug 2001 16:13:56 -0000
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0108270910390.9917-100000@commandprompt.com>

Hello,

I doubt I would vote for a move to SourceForge. If nothing else, my
Bandwidth to Ibiblio is better than to SourceFore ;0

J


On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Paul Jones wrote:

>for what it's worth, we, ibiblio or metalab or sunsite, offered to mirror
>or co-host or otherwise cooperate with the OSWG from the beginning and
>there was not much effort (read one complete mirror only) on their part
>(actually her part as Deb Richardson did everything but write the docs) to
>make this happen. Donnie Barnes was also trying to mirror or co-host but i
>don't know if that went anywhere either. i don't want to spend too much
>time commenting on OSWG but the lesson in both cases seems to be that you
>need several folks involved on an ongoing basis.
>
>about sourceforge, they are a fine group and we, ibiblio again, work with
>them very well (we even host a complete sourceforge ftp mirror). but
>frankly i think we offer the LDP much more than sourceforge can provide.
>if you even want to run the public sourceforge code on our machines we can
>handle that too.
>
>about ibiblio's future, we are funded by the center for the public domain
>for at least 4 to 5 more years and we have a continuous commitment from
>UNC (which as been in business of higher education for over 200 years).
>the ibiblio-metalab-sunsite operation predates the WWW and has been the
>LDP home from the beginning. We hope you'll stay around, but you own the
>domain name (which i see as a good thing) and you can live where you
>wish--altho we like having you here.
>
>and we don't allow advertising ;->
>
>On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, David Lawyer wrote:
>
>+Their website www.oswg.org/oswg/ seems to be dead.  It seemed to be
>+unmaintained for many months.   I can't find any obituary for it.
>+About a couple of years ago, it was suggested that the LDP was dying
>+and that OSWG was taking over.  A few HOWTOs were removed from the LDP
>+and went there instead.  One reasons for this was that the LDP's Howto
>+Coordinator had gone AWOL for about 2 months, but others took over
>+later on.
>+
>+Well, what's happened now is the opposite of what was suggested.  OSWG
>+seems to be dead and we are doing OK.  OSWG had some docs on their
>+site and a CVS server.  One doc was written by the founder of OSWG
>+(Deb Richardson) on DocBook.  I thought it was well written.
>+
>+OSWG was originally sponsored by the Puffin Group which Deb R. worked
>+for.  Then it was taken over by LinuxCare which was absorbed into
>+TurboLinux this year.  So there are some lessons to be learned here:
>+1. Always have at least two people able and willing to run a project.
>+2. Have plans of what to do if a sponsor merges, fails, or has a change
>+   of heart.
>+
>+One reason for avoiding putting LDP stuff on SourceForge is that VA
>+Linux (SourceForge's sponsor) might not be around a couple of years
>+from now.  Their stock is now in the 1's (down from 300+).  They are
>+saying they plan to make money from SourceForge.  I don't see how they
>+can do this without degrading it with advertising, etc.
>+
>+			David Lawyer
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