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Subject: Re: [discuss] Why MoinMoin?
From: Bill Traynor ####@####.####
Date: 20 May 2009 03:08:38 +0100
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On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Rick Moen ####@####.#### wrote:
> Quoting Bill Traynor ####@####.####
>
>> Why was MoinMoin chosen for the tldp wiki?  Hasn't Mediawiki
>> essentially become the wiki software leader?
>
> 1.  Not sure (but I can guess).
> 2.  No.  (Although I also note without particular objection that
>    you're expressing an opinion much more than you're actually
>    asking a question.)
>
> More below.
>
>> Also, I know that the Wikimedia Foundation has a usability project
>> underway to make wiki editing of mediawiki pages much more user
>> friendly, which I would think would benefit a project like tldp
>> greatly.
>
> And yet, Mediawiki markup is (in my experience) really neither more nor
> less "user friendly" than pretty much any other of the usual wiki markup
> styles, e.g., TWiki.

I agree with your wiki markup point.  I just thought something as
described in this press release:

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikipedia_to_become_more_user-friendly_for_new_volunteer_writers

may benefit TLDP as well.

>
> I would speculate that probably our kind and honoured hosts at iBiblio
> selected the software.  They might have done so with an eye to lesser
> hassle for themselves while wearing their sysadmin hats -- if only on
> account of these points of comparison:
>
>                        MediaWiki                   MoinMoin
> Dependencies            PHP5 w/PCRE & std. PHPlib   Python, nothing else
> (other than an httpd)   MySQL 4 or Postgres 8.1+
>                        Perl5
>
> Backup Method           MediaWiki                   MoinMoin
>                        Database dump, then         Regular file backup
>                        off-copy the dump files
>

That makes sense.

> But, really, the winning consideration is that they were willing to
> do the setup and subsequent admin work, and they did (and are doing)
> that work.  The fact that you have a differing opinion really doesn't
> signify, because you've not offered to set up and administer an
> alternative (nor are in a position to do so, as you're not an iBiblio
> admin).

I was just curious, and perhaps phrased my question poorly.  Also,
I've been a list subscriber for 1 day now, and do not know the
history.

>
> You act as if the matter were up for debate.  But you're way, way late
> for that, I'm afraid.
>
>
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