discuss: Should LDP apply for non-profit status (was Re: VolunteerMatch ...)
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Re: [discuss] Should LDP apply for non-profit status (was Re: VolunteerMatch
...)
From:
Bradley Hook ####@####.####
Date:
19 Apr 2007 01:15:15 -0000
Message-Id: <4626C28A.1060209@kssb.net>
Rick Moen wrote:
> I recall encountering setups to the contrary. But, regardless, this is,
> fundamentally, _entirely irrelevant_ to the point I was making, which I
> believe you were purporting to discuss -- unless, as now seems more
> likely you were purposely digressing irrelevantly, in which case I would
> prefer you not do that during a discussion already burdened with details
> unfamiliar to most participants.
I was merely pointing out the inaccurate comparison, and I have already
conceded the point of your example.
> I really don't think so. A deliberative assembly is merely a committee
> that is collectively sovereign (when it meets and votes) concerning some
> subject matter over which it has some responsibility. That's all very
> nice, but has little to do with the actual tasks entailed with running
> an organisation.
The committee has governance over the organization. See more on my
thoughts of "governance" below.
>> In addition, it defines a well-tested method of governing the organization.
>
> Er, deliberative assemblies are almost always merely part of what runs
> an organisation (if they are present at all). I shudder to think of
> what would happen to most groups if they tried to accomplish every
> aspect of governance through votes in committee.
Deliberative assemblies have very little to do with the daily operations
of an organization, but they have everything to do with governance. I
like how "governance" is defined in Wikipedia:
"Governance is that separate process or certain part of management or
leadership processes that makes decisions that define expectations,
grant power, or verify performance. Frequently a government is
established to administer these processes and systems."
"Governance (in business) is the action of developing and managing
consistent, cohesive policies, processes and decision rights for a given
area of responsibility. For example, managing at a corporate level:
privacy, internal investment, the use of data."
Yes, I realize that Wikipedia is not an authoritative source on the
term, I'm merely giving credit for where I obtained the wording I "like."
> I'm sorry, then: You haven't bothered to state what you mean by
> "organization seeking legal recognition", and perhaps you should start
> by doing so.
I generally expect most "computerists" to be able to derive meanings
from what I say, but if you insist:
To be recognized by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) of the United
States of America (USA) as a tax-exempt entity under Title 26 of the
United States Code (USC), and thereby also a legal entity, an
organization should have, at a minimum, governing officers whose duties
include those commonly associated with the roles of a president,
secretary, and treasurer. Please note that I am not stating this as a
legal requirement, but simply my opinion in regards to making the
process of receiving recognition less difficult.
Hope that clears things up.
~Bradley