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Subject: Re: [discuss] Should LDP apply for non-profit status (was Re: VolunteerMatch ...)
From: Bradley Hook ####@####.####
Date: 19 Apr 2007 01:15:15 -0000
Message-Id: <4626C28A.1060209@kssb.net>

Rick Moen wrote:

> I recall encountering setups to the contrary.  But, regardless, this is,
> fundamentally, _entirely irrelevant_ to the point I was making, which I
> believe you were purporting to discuss -- unless, as now seems more
> likely you were purposely digressing irrelevantly, in which case I would
> prefer you not do that during a discussion already burdened with details
> unfamiliar to most participants.

I was merely pointing out the inaccurate comparison, and I have already 
conceded the point of your example.

> I really don't think so.  A deliberative assembly is merely a committee
> that is collectively sovereign (when it meets and votes) concerning some
> subject matter over which it has some responsibility.  That's all very
> nice, but has little to do with the actual tasks entailed with running
> an organisation.

The committee has governance over the organization. See more on my 
thoughts of "governance" below.

>> In addition, it defines a well-tested method of governing the organization.
> 
> Er, deliberative assemblies are almost always merely part of what runs
> an organisation (if they are present at all).  I shudder to think of
> what would happen to most groups if they tried to accomplish every
> aspect of governance through votes in committee.

Deliberative assemblies have very little to do with the daily operations 
of an organization, but they have everything to do with governance. I 
like how "governance" is defined in Wikipedia:

"Governance is that separate process or certain part of management or 
leadership processes that makes decisions that define expectations, 
grant power, or verify performance. Frequently a government is 
established to administer these processes and systems."

"Governance (in business) is the action of developing and managing 
consistent, cohesive policies, processes and decision rights for a given 
area of responsibility. For example, managing at a corporate level: 
privacy, internal investment, the use of data."

Yes, I realize that Wikipedia is not an authoritative source on the 
term, I'm merely giving credit for where I obtained the wording I "like."

> I'm sorry, then:  You haven't bothered to state what you mean by
> "organization seeking legal recognition", and perhaps you should start
> by doing so.

I generally expect most "computerists" to be able to derive meanings 
from what I say, but if you insist:

To be recognized by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) of the United 
States of America (USA) as a tax-exempt entity under Title 26 of the 
United States Code (USC), and thereby also a legal entity, an 
organization should have, at a minimum, governing officers whose duties 
include those commonly associated with the roles of a president, 
secretary, and treasurer. Please note that I am not stating this as a 
legal requirement, but simply my opinion in regards to making the 
process of receiving recognition less difficult.

Hope that clears things up.

~Bradley

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