discuss: Some ideas for TLDP
Subject:
Re: Some ideas for TLDP
From:
Serge Victor ####@####.####
Date:
10 Jan 2016 00:27:09 +0000
Message-Id: <CAPRDrAHv5VaSJxE470-ZJnvr=yRbbd2PpKdCkUqCyt6t+dA8-g@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 7:18 PM, J. S. Evans ####@####.#### wrote:
> Where is TLDP today?
Hi :-)
I am the only person left in the team.
> [...]
> why not find a better standard?
I started to investigate it some time ago and identified some possible
formats, with asciidoc as the most promising candidate.
> - Find a way to grow enthusiasm for the project. Looking at the stats for the
> existing mailing lists, it looks like most of them haven't had any new traffic
> in years. Some going back to 2008 and before. TLDP is an amazing idea, why
> aren't we utilizing it for it's maximum value?
LDP has been started in times when publishing on internet was a
privilege for few. Now everyone can do it and do it for free.
Documentation started to fragment across programming languages, which
developed their own documentation flows, and geographically as well.
Docbook as a very powerful documentation language is hard to learn for
beginners.
> - Articles, books, guides, etc that are > 5 years old from the present should
> be put into an archives section of the site, but never ever deleted. Who
> knows when some poor slob really will need to use a 3-button serial mouse?
> Information is always needed, but it doesn't need to be on the front page.
Yeah, cleaning up is needed, but there no clear rules for that were developed.
> - Replace pluckerDB with epub. It just makes sense.
Definitely, it is mandatory to replace them.
> What I love about TLDP is the same as what I love about Linux, the GPL, and
> free software. I love the fact that there are no ads. Never change that. The
> site is smooth and easy to navigate. Mostly what I propose is to see more
> content and make it easier for that content to be added.
Definitely, and now we have identify how we can convince authors to
publish at LDP again.
> The scripts would still need to be updated.
Definitely, the publishing chain is now defunct with departure of its
author, Greg. We need to make it again, utilising web-hooks given by
github. There are also fully static pages generators like for example
pelican, which can be very useful to make a clear and unified look for
all documentation, easy handled by mirrors. I started to investigate
it, but working alone is not a big pleasure and it goes very slowly.
> TLDP is that it lost all of it's inertia a few years ago and nobody
> is doing the cheerleading required to get people excited
> about the project.
That's absolutely true, we need such person. Nobody arrived up to date.
Everything now is github, and I will be more than happy if you decide
to join the team.
S.
